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Hardware => Lynx Express => Topic started by: jap813 on February 26, 2010,

Title: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 26, 2010,
Ok I finished my second le and I do not have 3.3 or 5 volt leds? I have checked and rechecked  solder joints and polarity and everything looks good ???
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: ponddude on February 26, 2010,
Are the LEDs in correctly?

Did you put the wrong regulator in the wrong location?

These are just a couple of simply things to try out real quick...
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 26, 2010,
everything is exactly like my first le and that one works great, leds in correct and regs in proper locations
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: tbone321 on February 26, 2010,
Check to make sure that you are getting voltage to the transformer and something out of it.  Then make sure that the rectifier is installed correctly and you have a DC voltage there.  I would also check the caps and make sure that they are also installed correctly.
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 27, 2010,
ok here is the deal the transformer and the heatsink closest to the main heatsink are getting hot to the touch and my other board does not do that
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: tstewart on February 27, 2010,
Sounds like you have a short on the board or possibly a chip in backwards.


Todd



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ok here is the deal the transformer and the heatsink closest to the main heatsink are getting hot to the touch and my other board does not do that
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: tbone321 on February 27, 2010,
You need to check the 3V regulator and make sure that it is in fact the 3V regulator and not a triac or that the two regulators are not reversed.  I would also look for shorts, especially on the lower 100uf cap.
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 27, 2010,
ok 5 volt led is on but it is real dim and no 3.3 led
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: Caliente Christmas on February 27, 2010,
Would you be able to take a close up pictures of both sides and post it?
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 27, 2010,
no my camera is broken right now
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 27, 2010,
i switched regs with the board that works with the one that doesnt and still nothing. I also made sure they are in the correct place. Could it be the transformer or is it something else?
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 27, 2010,
Greetings,,,

Ok, check that the transformer has the pin 1 next to the edge of the board.

Check that the round rectifier has the plus polarity next to the plus sign on the board.

Check that the H11AA1 chip below the transformer is properly inserted.

Check that the 4700uF cap above the transformer is inserted correctly.

All, just in case.

Keith
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 27, 2010,
transformer is correct
rectifier ic correct
h11a1 chip is not in yet I was doing power test
4700uf cap is correct
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: RJ on February 27, 2010,
The fuse is in and good isn't it.  Hey it has been done before and since no fuses went out with this shipment I have to ask.

RJ
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 27, 2010,
yes fuse is in and good getting power to transformer but not sure about out of it
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 27, 2010,
ok heres the deal I switched everything from good board to bad one and still nothing the 3.3 reg still gets hot to the touch on the bad board. Could it be a bad pcb?
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: tbone321 on February 27, 2010,
It there was no power coming out of the transformer, then the heatsink on the 3v regulator would not be getting hot.  It really looks like you have a short on the 3V side.  I would take a close look at the small caps to the right of the regulators and make sure that they are installed with the correct polarity and that there is no solder bridge shorting either one of them out.
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 27, 2010,
yes been there done that as I said I switched all parts from good board to bad board and still the same thing the bad board does not work and the good one does still work
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: tbone321 on February 27, 2010,
If you are replacing ALL of the parts and theses parts are working on the other board then that indicates that the components are all ok and that there is a short on the "bad board".  I would check the bottom of the bad board for a solder bridge.  If you have already soldered in your sockets take a look at the one below the transformer.  I would also make sure that the board is clean. 
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 28, 2010,
I am  an idiot I did not look close enough to notice that I had 2 5 volt regs. <fp.
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 28, 2010,
Greetings,,,

Finding a problem is what we've all had to do.  So, everything is working now?

Keith
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: jap813 on February 28, 2010,
yes both units are working now
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: RJ on February 28, 2010,
Great! it is good to see you got them working. Just for everyones info the PCBs I get all get electricaly tested (does not cost much extra) to try and keep from having issues were the pcb would be the issue. As of so far with thousands of the units out we have never found the PCB was the problem that I am aware of. Doesn't mean it could never happen but it is always hundreds if not thousands of time more likely that is is a simple build issue.

As if you every notice new builders are almost always good on the first unit and if they are going to have a problem it is the mean old second one that gets them. Anyone know why this is?   ???

RJ
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: tbone321 on February 28, 2010,
Yea, overconfidence.  The first one is usually immersed in paranoia.  Did I use the right component???  Is that part in correctly???  Did I solder that correctly???  Am I going to kill myself or the board???  The first board is built with great care due to these and other fears.  Since the board has a good layout and with the excellent instructions provided, for many the first build is successfull and turns out to be not all that hard afterall but a bit time consuming.  Now with this new confidence and the desire to shorten the build time , sometimes things are missed or done incorrectly.  In a way this is also a good thing as it gets the builder much more familiar with the device layout and operation while trying to debug it and shows that rushing tends to cost more time than it saves. 
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: Kwajtony on February 28, 2010,
That would never happen to me.

 <wd..
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: tbone321 on February 28, 2010,
Of course it wouldn't, me either   <md..