DiyLightAnimation

Hardware => Lynx Smart String => Topic started by: thestig on July 23, 2012,

Title: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: thestig on July 23, 2012,
Title says it all, I am looking for some RJ45 pigtails to go with the SSC PCB's that I ordered from the store. Does anyone know where I can purchase them from?


Thank you

Grant
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: Steve Gase on July 23, 2012,
There are "straight-through" pigtails used by the coops, and there are "cross-over" pigtails available from other sources -- like monoprice.

The problem with the "cross-over" is that they have different wiring than what you have with the standard coop instructions.  You get the wiring wrong, and you can ruin your kit. 

After doing the translation, I did use cross-over pigtails and they worked well for me.  they are stranded, and therefore the wire is better than the solid core wires used in the recent aether2 and ssc v2 coops.  BUT you really need to be careful.

No doubt RJ will not be happy that I am throwing this out as an alternative, but I tried to chase down a suitable pigtail source last year to address my 50+ SSC PCBs that I built.

If RJ does not object, I will post the cross-over pin-out instructions in the wiki -- with pictures.  (alongside the 3-core pin out info already in the wiki)
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: jnealand on July 23, 2012,
You PM RJ to get pigtails.  At least that is what I have done twice in the past.
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: RJ on July 23, 2012,
I am putting an order in for some to go in the store. I am currently trying to get verification that they will be stranded as they have been in the past. Last order was not.

RJ
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: Corey872 on July 23, 2012,
How many are you looking for?  I have 8 full ones from a recent order and probably close to a dozen which were cut, but not used from a previous order.  I don't use them due to water infiltration concerns.  So if you want them I could probably work out a very good deal!
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: thestig on July 23, 2012,
Im sending you a PM Corey.


Grant
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: sittinguphigh on July 24, 2012,
Do these connectors have any problems with movement or moisture?


I see in the video RJ put together some of cases have a female connector built in to the box.


I wonder if it would be better for me to use a larger box and put the female connector built in the case wall. I'm only using four SSC line in.
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: keitha43 on July 24, 2012,
What I did was get some cheap plastic containers from walmart that were "Great Value" brand and were hinged on 1 side. I cut little notches at the top of each side just large enough for the pigtail and ethernet cords to fit snuggly. Then lay the connection across the notches and snap the lid. The lip on the lid helps keep the rain off the cuts and since the connection is suspended inside the container any condensation that could collect would be not touching the connection. This survived many rainstorms last season.
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: Steve Gase on July 24, 2012,
For water-proofing I've heard press-n-seal suggested.
Another idea suggested is using the fingers of a latex glove around the connectors.  It might be stretched to have the palm of the glove around the dongle case.
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: keitha43 on July 24, 2012,
Another guy I know uses yard stakes like for c9 and c7's and then invertes tupperware drinking glasses over the yard stake so it is open on the bottom.
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: sittinguphigh on July 24, 2012,
So the RJ45 connectors can be effective by water. So you have to have a way to seal the connectors.

What about movement. Will the connectors loose there connection?

Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: caretaker on July 24, 2012,
No, it is more of a problem that they are carrying voltage to the Pixels so that can cause the shorts. Other ways to protect them is use Corrosion X or No Ox (anti oxidant grease used for electrical connections).
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: sittinguphigh on July 24, 2012,
I see. Just spray the anti oxidant grease on the connection and it will protect it.

 I found this Cat5E Punch Down Keystone Jack on the monoprice.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10513&cs_id=1051308&p_id=5370&seq=1&format=2
 
Looks like I could use hook this to the wall of my box. I'm trying to hide the wires the best I can.
And with moving around I could loosen the connection.
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: sittinguphigh on July 24, 2012,
Here are some no tool ones/ Maybe easer.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10513&cs_id=1051301&p_id=1076&seq=1&format=2
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: Steve Gase on July 24, 2012,
I used no-tool keystone jacks last year.  I think they are a good solution for inside a wall and behind a plate, but after my experience i plan to avoid them for upcoming kits and projects.

Water-proofing was not a strong point for them.  And I did have a one or two that end up losing connectivity -- maybe it wasn't firmly in place originally, or the wire came undone.

so, i have started to replace the keystone jacks with the pigtail jacks which are solid plastic and have a more firm fit.  I will also ensure that the jacks point down to the ground to protect the connectors from rain.
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: sittinguphigh on July 25, 2012,
Thanks Steve.

 That's what I needed some one that used them.
 I only will be using 4 SSC. But that means I can't have any go bad.

 Thanks

 Mort

 
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: chrisatpsu on July 25, 2012,
have all the pigtails from this year's coops are wired the same? (solid vs stranded and all still straight through cable?)

i'm building my ssc's and aetherII from the recent coops, and don't want to make a wiring mistake.
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: Steve Gase on July 25, 2012,
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
have all the pigtails from this year's coops are wired the same? (solid vs stranded and all still straight through cable?)

i'm building my ssc's and aetherII from the recent coops, and don't want to make a wiring mistake.
i've gotten into the habit of testing the colors with each 4-conductor, 3-conductor, or pigtail connector with each batch of kits or parts i receive. 

better safe than sorry.
an ounce of protection is worth a pound of cure.
measure twice cut once.



 ;)
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: jnealand on July 26, 2012,
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
i've gotten into the habit of testing the colors with each 4-conductor, 3-conductor, or pigtail connector with each batch of kits or parts i receive. 

Probably a good habit.  I did receive on 3 connector pigtail that had the blue and brown wires switched.  After unsoldering and testing I just swapped the wires since that was easier than trying to send one back for exchange and it does work fine with the wires swapped at the solder joint.
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: sittinguphigh on July 29, 2012,
Steve

What are the pigtail jacks you used instead of the keystone jacks?

Mort
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: keitha43 on July 29, 2012,
They come in the coop or you can pm RJ to purchase some.

Sent from my Thunderbolt using Tapatalk 2.
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: RJ on July 29, 2012,
The store replaced pm me for ordering stuff.

I do not have any at the moment. Soon as they come in they will be listed in the store.

RJ
Title: Re: Where do I order RJ45 Pigtails
Post by: Penfold on July 30, 2012,
I saw some on ebay.  This might be what you are looking for:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/0-5m-Network-EXTENSION-Lead-Cat5E-RJ45-Ethernet-Cable-/190688812641?pt=US_Ethernet_Cables_RJ_45_8P8C_&hash=item2c65f05e61

Cheaper here:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10208&cs_id=1020815&p_id=5088&seq=1&format=2

But with that one you are going to have to figure out what the pin out is and accordingly adjust that when you solder it in the board.