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Hardware => Lynx Express => Topic started by: stormym on November 17, 2011,

Title: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 17, 2011,
So, I am sure I am missing something but both my LE boards are not dimming on all channels. I thought, maybe I need to program curves into them, so I programmed curves and still the same. i have to ramp up to about 90% before I get power on most of the channels. What am I doing wrong? <pop..
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: rrowan on November 17, 2011,
More information would be helpful

What kind of lights are you using?
What software?

If you move the lights to different channels does the problem also move?
Like say for example you are not seeing diming on channel 5 so move that set of lights to another channel that is currently diming. Do they know dim properly or do they still have a problem? You should be able to dim with the standard curve (default) or any curve besides the non-diming one (strobe).

Rick R.
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 17, 2011,
I am using Vixen, tried both channel test and regular show and all the same lights. If I move a strand that is dimming to a channel that isn't dimming, the strand no longer dims. I have not tested every channel yet as I do not have everything hooked up, however one board I have 5 channels connected and only one is dimming. I will hook up more to see how many channels have issues
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 17, 2011,
I should also add that the indicator LED's are dimming. Just the output seems to have the issue.
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 17, 2011,
Alright, I populated one full LE board and that one has no channels dimming :-( So one board I have a couple working, another I have none
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: rrowan on November 17, 2011,
Something is not right with your setup. (Yeah I know, duh to me :) )

Check the parts between the left fuse and the transformer. There is a 6 pin chip and I think 3 resistors. Go over the soldering and make sure the correct resistors are there (orientation does not matter) and the chip is in the correct way and all of the pins are making contact with the board. If that all checks out then when booting up the LE does the display move steady and fast or slow?  Assuming you life in the USA then the LE will display 60hz during startup.

Rick R.
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 17, 2011,
I checked and don't see a problem, but I took some pictures. The LCD sequence moves at about a ~1/2 second per char
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: rrowan on November 17, 2011,
I believe that all looks good.

Have you run the test on the LE?
With dongle connected, it should end with led2,3,4 on showing good signals

copied from the manual

TEST MODE after the board is fully powered up. Press the Mode Button until "TST" is displayed. Then press the Select Button. The digits should light up in a circle pattern for a second and then the 16 LEDs should light up 1 through 16. Then they should flash once and finally LED 2 and LED 4 should stay on with the rest off. (If you have a DMX Signal then LED 3 will stay on.)

Rick R.
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 17, 2011,
Yep, test mode works fine, all good lights. Everything works except for being able to dim below ~95%.
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: rrawlings on November 17, 2011,
I have re-read and don't see where you said what kind of lights.  Are you by chance using LED's?  Is it a lack of enough load to actually turn on the triac?
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: rrowan on November 17, 2011,
What type of lights are you using?

LED, Incandescent?
Maker?

Plug in a table lamp and see if the LE will dim it

Did you re-flash the pic?
Set the curves back to default?

I am starting to go off on tangents because what you are telling me is not making total sense.

Its coming down to the LE or Lights

Rick R.

Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 17, 2011,
I am using Incandescent. I hooked up a lamp and same result. I re-flashed same result. I hooked up my multimeter and found something interesting.... at 95% or higher I get ~123.4V at anything less, I get ~1.722V and as I ramp down it will go down further all the way down to 0%. So it looks like it is dimming, however it is not dimming right, it make a huge jump after that 95% mark.
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: combustionmark on November 17, 2011,
Have you tryed using RJ's dmx deck?

Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 17, 2011,
I don't know what that is? I am connected using a normal Lynx USB DMX Dongle.
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: combustionmark on November 17, 2011,
DMX deck is some free software RJ wrote for testing ad setup. You can get it from the WIKI software page, same place you downloaded the lynx configuration program. I find it very usefull.

Have Fun
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: combustionmark on November 17, 2011,
On the one that is dimming, is it just the #1 channel that is working?

As I am understanding, test mode works normally, Have you done test mode with the lights hooked up, and do they turn on and off with the test?

You are running off normal house power, not a generator or an inverter?
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 17, 2011,
DMX Deck, same result.....

Test mode with all lights hooked up, they all turn on and off. Normal house power.

On the board that is working, I currently only have terminals for ch9-16 as I am waiting for my shipment.

But here are the results of that board:
ch9, 12, 13, 15, 16 - No dim
chnl 10, 11, 14 - DIMS
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: combustionmark on November 17, 2011,
Have you swapped any of the non dimming optos with ones from the unhooked 1-8 Chanel?
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 17, 2011,
Could this be bad Triacs? It just seems strange that I have so many that don't work. I got the two in one shipment and I remember there being like 4 Triacs in an additional package since they wouldn't all fit in the one package. Could I have gotten a bad batch? I can test that theory once I get the rest of my terminals in on the one board, if there aren't anymore that work or one or two that is the only other thing I can think of being wrong...... Maybe I am way off, I don't know anymore. Time for bed, tomorrow another day..
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: combustionmark on November 17, 2011,
Are both ac in connectors plugged in to same outlet?

The nutrals are to the inside on both connectors, "mirror image"
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: trekster on November 18, 2011,
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I am using Incandescent. I hooked up a lamp and same result. I re-flashed same result. I hooked up my multimeter and found something interesting.... at 95% or higher I get ~123.4V at anything less, I get ~1.722V and as I ramp down it will go down further all the way down to 0%. So it looks like it is dimming, however it is not dimming right, it make a huge jump after that 95% mark.

If you were to program the light curves to all 16 channels as "strobes" you would get something like the above I think?  You did not do this right?  Because strobes need to be on or off and nothing in between.   It is the only thing that comes to mind for me.

Ron
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 18, 2011,
Both cords were plugged into the same outlet, everything was correct on the connections. I set all the curves to default as well as tried a incandescent type. No luck. When I get home today I will try to move the Octo's around but I thought those would be bad if I wasn't getting any power at all to the channels?
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 18, 2011,
Swapped Octo's around and problem seems to follow the Octo. I can't believe I have that many bad ones. Has anyone had this experience before?
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: rrowan on November 18, 2011,
Not until recently

For some reason we are seeing a bunch of problems with parts and poor quality/assembly of string nodes

Rick R.
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: combustionmark on November 18, 2011,
Did you get the parts in a coop buy?  If not did mouser substitute parts? I have seen bad part, seams like a bad batch.

Have Fun
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 18, 2011,
I bought these direct from Mouser.... 25 out of 32 were bad. The 25 bad ones came in a different tube then the 7 others so I am guessing it was part of a bad batch. Hopefully they will give me a credit towards my replacements I just ordered. I threw in a few extras to make sure that I am covered against more bad ones.
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: rrowan on November 18, 2011,
Are they the same part number?

Rick R.
Title: Re: LE Dimming
Post by: stormym on November 18, 2011,
Yep, all the same. Amazing isn't it?