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Title: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on May 07, 2011,: I have been talking with the staff about a get together for DIY'ers for about 3 years . Sort of a DIY summit of sorts.

After talking with my family, I am thinking sometime late March early April time frame. It will be more than a mini something in between a mini and what the PC expo is.

The focus would be all things DIY in the light animation world. So we would be out to teach how to do it cheaper and sometimes better by building it yourself. People who are not DIY'ers would be welcome, as the idea is to show everyone it is easy and what is available. As well as how all of you smart people are doing it.

All Diyer's would be welcome no matter what equipment they use.

We would be talking maybe a three day event over a weekend and maybe a Monday or Friday.

Wife's and Children would not only be welcome but would be expected. We are planning for them also.

I am thinking like a day of classes put on by a number of speakers on how to do stuff and how they use stuff. This would include every kind of lights you can imagine and let you check them out and compare. Welding for Christmas, for people that have never welded with hands on let you try it out. We will as a group build a few of the mid trees dad and I made taking turns welding and bending.

(this is where it gets different than a normal mini)

The non light members of the group would have things like craft classes at Michaels, Movies, swimming at one of the beautiful 27 lakes with 10 minutes of my house. We will plan a trip for them to maybe the Lego Land which is being built right now and will be open at that time. It's 30 minutes away and will be great fun for all ages.

We might even be able to get my brothers to bring out their airboats for those that have never been on one and would like to see the beauty of natural Florida (yes including alligators).

The second day would be build day for the light addict's, Bring you unassembled, partially assembled, or problem project with you and your solder iron cause we have just the people to help you get them going and teach you whatever you need as we do. We will spend the day building including teaching soldering and helping those that can solder but think they could do better. For those that want to do DIY but are afraid they can't with some help from a few spare pcb's and parts we will make sure you go home knowing you can do it and ready to hit the season with new inexpensive DIY devices.

Don't know the different between a Resistor and a Triac? Don't worry that is what it is all about we will make sure you do.

We will introduce everyone to Surface Mount soldering by making sure at least one Aether gets built if not a number of them.

Third day maybe we take everyone to the beach. We can show you the Florida beach unlike the crowded beaches you are familiar with. Floridians go to quieter less busy beaches that are really nice. No fighting for parking or paying lots of money.

The best part is take a week vacation and come. We are only an hour from everything big in Florida.

Walt Disney (1 hr) http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/

Bush Gardens (1hr) http://buschgardens.com/Bgt/

Lego land (30 minutes) http://florida.legoland.com/

Sea World (1 hr) http://www.seaworld.com/orlando/default.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc&utm_term=swf&utm_campaign=branddummyforsitelink_swf&sitelink=SWF

Kennedy Space Center (1.5 hr) http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/

Universal Studios (1 hr) http://www.universalorlando.com/Home/home.aspx?ComponentId=7804&SourcePageId=7805#207

Bok Tower and Gardens (30 minutes) http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/

Both beaches Gulf and Atlantic Ocean (1 hr)

And the list goes on and on : See http://goflorida.about.com/od/attractionsaz/Florida_Attractions_AZ.htm

All of this is just ideas, nothing has been set in stone so I am starting this thread to get users talking about it. Don't like the ideas then tell us what you think would be better. What date would be better in that time period. That time period is idea weather in Florida as it is in the 70's and sunny with lower humidity.

We can do it here on my families 3.5 acres and using our homes and building or if it gets large enough we have some great places to rent out.

Don't think too small we are not looking at a get together we are looking to build an event!

Can you help do setup? do a class? Can you bring interesting things to show? Let me know.

So give me you thoughts and let me know who would want to come. I think we could turn it into a big event even the event to be at for the DIY'ers.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: sirloinofbeef001 on May 07, 2011,: That's would be awesome..
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: Freebird on May 07, 2011,: Sounds very interesting. Would love to be taught by so many great minds using OJT. I wonder if 3 days would be enough though.
If my family and I were able to make it we would probably stay a week in Florida, 3 days at the expo and the other 4 days being a tourist since we would be coming from the other corner of the States. I would suggest that perhaps a good amount time for notice since airline tickets would be cheaper for us to get, the more notice we have.

Freebird
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: tbone321 on May 07, 2011,: That was exactly what I was thinking. Airline tickets can get expensive if you try and get them within a few days of travel. You may also want to contact any of the local hotels and see if they will arrange a group rate for this awesome event. As for the days, Friday is the only day that works for me since I'm back in school Mon thru Thurs but I am only one person and if you are giving a choice, majority rules.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on May 07, 2011,: Tickets no problem we have a full year and I wamt to have the dates set in the next month.

Thats the plan make it a Florida Vacation and spend a few days with us at the Expo!

Hotels will be no problem with enough people we can get some great rates.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: dlhoppe on May 07, 2011,: Sounds like a great idea! I'm in.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: chrisatpsu on May 07, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Thats the plan make it a Florida Vacation and spend a few days with us at the Expo!

RJ

Brought to you by the Florida Tourism and Travel Bureau ;D

honestly, it sounds like a cool idea!
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on May 07, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Thats the plan make it a Florida Vacation and spend a few days with us at the Expo!

RJ

Brought to you by the Florida Tourism and Travel Bureau ;D

honestly, it sounds like a cool idea!

<fp.

Just got to get enough interest to make it happen.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: rrowan on May 07, 2011,: Awesome,

Pencil in me and my wife and at least my youngest son

Rick R.

Oh, my son is demanding going to LegoLand ;D
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: jeffcoast on May 07, 2011,: As I live in Orlando, I would surely make it if it doesn't interfere with my work. I work every other weekend, so it would be a 50% chance, and I am off this weekend. :)
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: inzeos on May 08, 2011,: Sounds very interesting RJ.

Heck, it would be neat if you put your ideas into a WIKI page. Maybe called it "DIY, DIY Lighting EXPO" and other members could potentially run them regionally for folks who don't want to or can't travel that far.

Leif
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: tbone321 on May 08, 2011,: LOL, I must be numerically challenged. This whole time I thought that this was being set up for THIS year not seeing that it is 2012, not 2011. I was thinking that if he was trying to set it up for later THIS month or early next month that it doesn't give much time to get airline tickets which could make them very expensive. Now that I see I have a year or more it is time to start planning.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: hbomb341 on May 08, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Sounds very interesting RJ.

Heck, it would be neat if you put your ideas into a WIKI page. Maybe called it "DIY, DIY Lighting EXPO" and other members could potentially run them regionally for folks who don't want to or can't travel that far.

Leif

(First to say not ment to be mean or hijack the thread - just info in response)

Texas does - it is described the same way ( larger then a mini (not a mini) - Not as much as PLUS (but we can argue this) ) This is year 4 for this type of event for us. This year DIY is a big topic (big demand - and DIY has been there for the past 3 years) and a lot of work goes into the academy each year. Everyone is welcomed - we have even had chuck smith attend (and I know RJ has thought about it and would love to see him there) - we do multiple classes at the same time and non light animation (Christmas Villages, Halloween, Fireworks, welding, etc ...).

I think it sounds great - I am interested in seeing the cost.

Haros
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: mokeefe on May 08, 2011,: Up here in the northeast lots of folks like to head to Florida during the school vacation weeks. It would be nice if the EXPO coincided with this. Probably varies from state to state which week they pick for vacation, so maybe try to find the most common week for school vacations.

-Mike
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on May 08, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Up here in the northeast lots of folks like to head to Florida during the school vacation weeks. It would be nice if the EXPO coincided with this. Probably varies from state to state which week they pick for vacation, so maybe try to find the most common week for school vacations.

-Mike

Then everyone let me know when this is for your area. then we can see what lines up.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: hbomb341 on May 08, 2011,: RJ,

Let me know if you need some help love to help out where ever I can.

Harrison
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: loveroflife96 on May 08, 2011,: Sign me up! I can help with tear down and set up if needed. This sounds like a great event!! Just a thought, but what about a day where you could have "vendors" with tables to set up and have a real expo. The vendors could pay a nominal fee for the table and space and have an audience to sell their items. This would help to defer the many obvious costs of the event.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: jnealand on May 08, 2011,: I'm in for 3 people. I have no kids in school and am retired so any dates are ok by me. I will be driving from GA and will also be stopping in Lakeland to visit my brother. We were already planning a trip to Lakeland this fall and also next spring so this is perfect.

You might want to make this topic into a new one off the main menu.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: SteveMaris on May 08, 2011,: Sounds great. I can't commit 100% right now, but I would have to say my family and I are coming. 8)
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: D56VillageNut on May 09, 2011,: Awesome idea RJ.

The wife and I've been looking for another reason to come to FL.

I'd certainly try to make it.

Alan T
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: tmtfield on May 09, 2011,: Very Cool Idea <res.

I am in and will probably bring the wife and kid.
I suspect that I would come for a week as well. Take the family to the local attractions for a couple of days and blinky for the others.
I can also volunteer for set up and tear down if needed.
I will be the one with a fishing pole in one hand and soldering iron in the other ;D

Thanks RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: tpctech on May 13, 2011,: I like it! I am pretty sure I would come. I could do a "class" on sACN, DMX from my day job!

KEN
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: TheBanker on May 13, 2011,: But the world is ending May 21st.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: chrisatpsu on May 13, 2011,: December, we're still good : )
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: Sparky96 on May 15, 2011,: Depending on the date, I'm interested. Now to find a way to talk the wife into it, like that should be hard to do.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on May 24, 2011,: So we are a go to have it, Now we need to decide when. I am putting up a poll with the weekends I think would work and everyone can vote on them.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: chrisatpsu on May 24, 2011,: with the wife being a school teacher, i wont be able to attend in march.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: rrowan on May 24, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
with the wife being a school teacher, i wont be able to attend in march.
She teaches on the weekend?

Rick R.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: chrisatpsu on May 24, 2011,: no, but by the time we drive down from Pennsylvania, it'll be time to drive home
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: rrowan on May 24, 2011,: Any weekend works for us. We most likely will take a whole week off and spend the week in Disney and the weekend at the expo.

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: onesmoothhead on May 24, 2011,: RJ, this sounds great. My family of 4 will be ready and willing. I can volunteer for something I am pretty sure. Kevin
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: taybrynn on May 24, 2011,: I don't think I can attend, but since my wife is from FL ... there is a chance. My kids do have spring break in March, which is rarely nice in CO, but probably great in FL !
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on May 24, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I don't think I can attend, but since my wife is from FL ... there is a chance. My kids do have spring break in March, which is rarely nice in CO, but probably great in FL !

It is the best time in Florida (in the 70's with low humidity) that's why we are doing it then. The weather is a little on the hot side later in summer to do it then. Not many Northerners handle 95 deg with 80% humidity too well.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: chrisatpsu on May 24, 2011,: 95 degree weather with 80% humidity? that's Pennsylvania! hehe

a couple summers ago, my brother had our neice visit from Arizona. She said that she didn't like to go outside b/c it was too hot. She felt like she could lick the air.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: jnealand on May 24, 2011,: I need another choice on the poll. Any date. My calendar doesn't go out that far yet. The only question I would ask is when is Easter 2012?
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: rrowan on May 24, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I need another choice on the poll. Any date. My calendar doesn't go out that far yet. The only question I would ask is when is Easter 2012?

Easter 2012 is April 8th and of course Good Friday is the 6th

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: Rbar on May 25, 2011,: Planning around the better weather would be encouraging.
Humidity turns my glasses into diffusers.
And if I sit still, I start to rust.
Rbar
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: JimWright on May 25, 2011,: I don't know how I missed this topic. RJ thanks for pointing me to it. I will only be one person, but I want in. I will be willing to help in any way possible. Jim
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: PVPlaceLights on May 29, 2011,: Count me in. I'd like to be able to present/teach Olive in the educational scheduling, if possible.

Thanks,
--Matt
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on May 29, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Count me in. I'd like to be able to present/teach Olive in the educational scheduling, if possible.

Thanks,
--Matt

Sure!

We will have lots of slots open with the length of it. Two full days of different classes in multiple rooms. Maybe One room be things like hanging lights, building mega trees ect.
Next Room be like all different Software and hardware stuff,
And one room just for building and troubleshooting, setup for the full time so people can stop and go take in a class and return to their work.

Outside we will setup a welder and give intros to welding for lighting.

The idea is to make it "THE EVENT" for DIY'ers to attend every year!

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: wbuehler on May 29, 2011,: Dates to not line up well for me, so a maybe at this point.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: rrowan on May 29, 2011,: Quote
Outside we will setup a welder and give intros to welding for lighting.

That sounds like FUN... I'll bring the RED pill for welding ;D :o

Cheers

P.S. Hoping Mr. Bill can make it there

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: rrowan on June 13, 2011,: Last night word came down from swmbo and stated that the last weekend in March would be a bad idea since the week before Easter airlines start raising their prices for air travel because schools are on break and Easter. So early to mid March would be the better times for airplane tickets. For the Disney lovers March is also High School Senior trip time.

just relaying a message :)

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on June 27, 2011,: It looks like it's the friday night , Saturday and Sunday Stating March 23th - the 25th.

Friday Night will be a meet and greet social get together.
Saturday at 8AM we will start the day with an keynote explaining everything and how it works so you do not miss anything.

8:30am we begin the first set of classes and open the builders training lab.
Kids and others head off to a day at Logo Land. For the rest we will have some things going on such as classes at Michaels for crafts and shopping.

Lunch will likely be catered in for us for Saturday.

The day closes at 4pm with everyone heading back to the rooms to freshening up for the trip.
We will depart approximately at 6:00 pm via motor coach to dinner and show at Arabian Nights.
http://www.arabian-nights.com/

We will return you to the hotel Approximately 11 pm.

Sunday starts late at 10am to allow you all to rest.

For the kids and kids at heart it will be a half day at a water park.

We will Have additional classes and the builders lab will be open again all day. The classes will include different Seqencing software where it is and where it is going. You will be able to not only ask questions but try out the software on live equipment (all DIY).

The day closes out early at approximatly 3 pm (don't worry about the room check out as I am working them to allow us late check outs.) If I can do it I am trying yo get us in a hotel with a conference rooms for the classes so you do not have to travel and can come and go between the room and classes as you want.

I have much work to do but am starting this early. I need more input on if we have enough people to put this together so please give me an idea if you plan to be here. If we can not get enough interest it will not be possible to put it together.

Rick I checked with Walt Disney World and they tell me the crowds are just average the last week of March. It is Easter and the middle weeks in March that tend to be busy for them.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: jeffcoast on June 27, 2011,: I can make it as I am off those whole days. But I will not need a hotel and would just drive over everyday. I also wouldn't need to take the bus to Arabian Nights, as I live in Orlando and would just want to drive myself there. I don't have any kids to partake in the other festivities.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: jnealand on June 27, 2011,: I am planning to come. Count 3 adults for us.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: rrowan on June 27, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I am planning to come. Count 3 adults for us.

Uh Oh

I am not sure if I count as a adult or not?? ???

Sounds awesome RJ

Many thanks

Cheers

Rick (state of uncertainty) R.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: tbone321 on June 27, 2011,: I'm not sure if it would be adult or artifact >:D
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: Freebird on June 28, 2011,: The family and I plan on it. I have already checked out plane tickets and got them real cheap!! 200 a person! Not a bad deal considering its from one corner to the other. Myself, wife, 10y/o, 8 y/o and 6 y/o.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: rrowan on July 06, 2011,: Just checked two airline :(

Southwest is only booking up to Jan 6, 2012
Airtran allows you to Select March 2012 but there are no flights yet

Come one airlines I need to know the ticket cost LOL (like they are reading DLA)

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on July 06, 2011,: I am going to be looking for some people to teach soon. I will be reaching out to people that are experts in certain areas to help pass their knowledge along. I am not wanting people to pm me asking to do so at this time that will be later. But I will reach out to find a high end Renard user that can put a class on about everything you every would need to know about Renard. I need someone that really knows the inside out about them. If you are a person like this please feel free to pm me. If multiple people ask to do so we will use the most experienced person to make sure the users interested in Renard get the best we can offer.

I am also hope one of the Xlights people that have been involded in it's design can do a class. I am already asking some other experts in other items to step up and be a part of putting on the DIY expo so that it will be the best place ever to learn about it all. I hope to have a few very special guest that everyone is going to really love to have the chance to meet and shake hands with!

This will be an all inclusive education so that no matter what DIY stuff you are interested in or what software you want to learn there will be more than something for you.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on July 07, 2011,: Well I can say that we have two of our softwares covered with training. With one the Owner is coming so we should really get schooled!

I have got a comfirmation from one of the individuals I have asked to teach so we are moving right along with getting the training setup. Looks as if it might be a really awesome event! <wd..

So far everyone has said they think a big get together for DIY'ers was a great idea.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: TexasStingray on July 13, 2011,: Just a suggestion, maybe have a little class on creating your own pic program and using it in DMX.

Just a thought
Title: Re: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on July 13, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Just a suggestion, maybe have a little class on creating your own pic program and using it in DMX.

Just a thought

I think that would be something that require much long than an hour to cover much. It would be more of a half day or day topic.

It also would have a fixed audience that that would miss DLAs main focus. It's a good idea but I think it would need it's own venue to do it right.

I would say if the event was three days of classes we could do it by dedicating one classroom to it for half a day.

Sent from my Charge by Tapatalk

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: mokeefe on July 15, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Just checked two airline :(

Southwest is only booking up to Jan 6, 2012
Airtran allows you to Select March 2012 but there are no flights yet

Come on airlines I need to know the ticket cost LOL (like they are reading DLA)

Cheers

Rick R.

Just got an email from JetBlue that says on July 17 they will be extending their schedule to April 30, 2012 so that may be one more to check (if JetBlue services your area).

-Mike
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on August 01, 2011,: http://www.cesebring.com/index.html

Looks like so far this is where we are going to be hosting the event. I am still looking but they are offering me very good rates for the quality of Hotel it is.

$89 is a great rate for this place it is normally around $160 a night. Has three very nice conference rooms for classrooms that they will give me a break on if we get enough people staying the night.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: mykroft on August 02, 2011,: Where is the closest airport - trying to get some quotes

Thanks
Myk
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: Exitfourxmas on August 02, 2011,: Just booked my room, just need to confirm the date. ;)
I'll have to let my boss know I will be gone for the week. <yk..

Jerry Kohlenstein
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on August 02, 2011,: Quote
Looks like so far this is where we are going to be hosting the event. I am still looking
I said this is were it will likely be and no one should be booking rooms ect.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on August 02, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Where is the closest airport - trying to get some quotes

Thanks
Myk

Orlando Intl is the closest and easiest to get to. Tampa works but is less conveinent.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: Exitfourxmas on August 03, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Quote
Looks like so far this is where we are going to be hosting the event. I am still looking
I said this is were it will likely be and no one should be booking rooms ect.

RJ

My booked room is at my mothers house in Davenport. <la..
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: therealbigjim on August 03, 2011,: I thought we would be camping in RJ's yard....Like a Christmas Light Woodstock.....
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on August 21, 2011,: I have some really big news coming for the Expo. There are some real big changes (including location & Date) that will make this the 'MUST BE AT' event of the year for the DIY user! As soon as I can I will post the info should be in the next week.

RJ
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: rrowan on August 21, 2011,: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I have some really big news coming for the Expo. There are some real big changes (including location & Date) that will make this the 'MUST BE AT' event of the year for the DIY user! As soon as I can I will post the info should be in the next week.

RJ

SOUNDS AWESOME!!!

I can't wait to hear whats going on

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: wbuehler on August 23, 2011,: Sounds great, can't wait for the details.
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: onesmoothhead on August 26, 2011,: <pop..
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: vairmoose on August 26, 2011,: <pop..

(have not told SWMBO about this minor diversion yet.... <yk.. )

Larry
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: lonewolf41 on August 31, 2011,: The wife and I will try and make it.

-Keith
Title: Re: DIY Lighting EXPO 2012
Post by: RJ on September 04, 2011,: Since this has change to the academy i am locking this and opening a new current thread on the topic focus on the new venue.

RJ