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Hardware => Lynx Express => Topic started by: ratroder on February 17, 2010,
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i have a lor network non-dmx. i am looking to add some of the lynx controllers to my network. i was wondering if the lynx controllers can be Daisy chained together and can the lynx controllers be put in line with the lor controllers. example: lor, lor, lynx, lor, lor.
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Greetings,,,
You need DMX to control the Lynx units. We have people who are using both with DMX, you just have to have a connecting cable with the proper wires switched anytime you changed from Lynx to Lor or back. That's if you are controlling with DMX.
Keith
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i know that i need a dmx unit. Can i run the cat5 line that comes out of the dmx unit (the lor one) to my first lor then to the lynx controller, then run an output cable from the lynx to the next lor in the chain.
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Greetings,,,
Here should be some info to help better explain.
http://diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ#LOR_Info
You need a simple cable with the wires switched any time you go from Lor to Lynx or back. So it should work the way you want.
Keith
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so if i make the said device and put one on the line in of the lynx and one on the line out of the lynx (to the next controller) i will be able to put the lynx and the lor controllers where ever i wan in the network, correct?
if i split the line out from the dmx-unit and used one of the split sides for the lynx and one for the lor, would that work?
how do the lynx show up in the lor software?
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Greetings,,,
I'm not well enough versed in Lor software to speak on that. Someone else is bound to jump in.
As long as you have a cable adapter anytime you switch between Lynx and Lor, you can daisy chain within the limits of DMX connections.
To split DMX, you need a DMX splitter, or using the current version of the Lynx Express, which has a built in splitter for wired connections.
Keith
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If you are using lor s2 software you need the idmx 1000 from lor.and it is only going to control 256 channels If your run dmx .The lynx express will come off the idmx 1000 and your lor controllerswill daisy chain in to the i dmx1000 then the xlr out put to lynx express with pin 1 and 2 You can look in the wiki on lor pin outs .but I would use RJs dongle because it will control the 512dmx for 3/4 of the price of the idmx 1000 at 256.00 but you will have to use vixen software and update the firmware on your lor controllers to 4.30 or higher to run dmx and change the cat 5 cabling it is does this help
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Like to add there is also a LOR to Vixen converter, if you want to use your sequencing from LOR. If I find the app, I will post for you.
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If you are using lor s2 software you need the idmx 1000 from lor.and it is only going to control 256 channels If your run dmx .The lynx express will come off the idmx 1000 and your lor controllerswill daisy chain in to the i dmx1000 then the xlr out put to lynx express with pin 1 and 2 You can look in the wiki on lor pin outs .but I would use RJs dongle because it will control the 512dmx for 3/4 of the price of the idmx 1000 at 256.00 but you will have to use vixen software and update the firmware on your lor controllers to 4.30 or higher to run dmx and change the cat 5 cabling it is does this help
The iDMX how supports 512 channels and 64 intelligent channels. The firmware was just released.
Greg
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I think that is beta testing only on their web site it still ver 1.30 it is the same
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That brings up an interesting question.
Is there a standard pin out for using a RJ45 for DMX?
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lor uses pin 4 and 5 and the lynx use pin 1 and 2 the firmware in lor has to have 4.30 or higher to run dmx that is if you not using the s2 software
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There is a pic in the last post showing how you would interconnect Lynx and LOR.
http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=2063.msg20592#msg20592 (http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=2063.msg20592#msg20592)
There are diagrams on what wires need to cross in order for Lynx and LOR to talk.
http://diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=General_Information_on_Dongle_Connections (http://diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=General_Information_on_Dongle_Connections)
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That brings up an interesting question.
Is there a standard pin out for using a RJ45 for DMX?
Yes the standard defines it in the DMX over cat5 standard. The Lynx equipment adheres to it but lor had to use what they already where so it does not.
RJ
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I think that is beta testing only on their web site it still ver 1.30 it is the same
Sims, you are correct. I always forget that I am a beta tester for LOR and end up with things sooner.
I have been testing the 512 channels with LOR and it has been working just fine. LOR should be releasing the firmware as well as the newest version of S2 very soon.
Sorry about that confusion :P
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That brings up an interesting question.
Is there a standard pin out for using a RJ45 for DMX?
Yes the standard defines it in the DMX over cat5 standard. The Lynx equipment adheres to it but lor had to use what they already where so it does not.
RJ
That is going to make it interesting if you mix LOR/D-Light and Lynx controller locations in the display. Got to think how to allocated the controllers in the display to minimize the conversion of the RS-485 signal.
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It has not been an issue for the many users using Lynx with LOR. you make up a couple of cat5 convertor cables by crimping on one end with the different wiring and tag them with labels. then any time you go from one type to the other you use one of them.
RJ
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But if you wireless on your lynx you only need one cable to change ;D
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Dennis,
I am not sure if you saw this post I made a while back about how I did my LOR Lynx setup. Video included...
http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=2602.0
Might I recommend leaving all your LOR controllers without the DMX firmware, leaving them "speaking LOR" and make all your Lynx equipment wireless. It worked flawlessly for me last year and all I had to do was purchase an XLR/Cat-5 adapter.
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so did you hook the lors up on a lor network and the dmx converter to the wireless transmitter on the same sequence?
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I think what everyone seems to forget is the iDMX is part of the LOR network. It is an LOR controller, the only difference is it outputs DMX. So the iDMX was part of my LOR network and the outputs created my DMX network. On that DMX network was the LE, a Freestyle and a DMX moving light.
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so were the lor controllers that you used last year on the dmx network?
what i am think of is if i could split the line out of the usb converter and connect on line to the idx and the other line to my first lor unit. so the lynx controllers would run on the dmx network while the lors would run off of the normal lor output (not dmx).
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My LOR controllers were not on the DMX network. I left them "speaking LOR." You could do what you are saying, but don't split the line. Are you not planning on using RJ's wireless units? They make life MUCH easier.
A picture is worth a thousand words, so maybe this will help explain it a little bit more! This is how my setup was last year.
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ok yes that did really help, thanks. i might use the wireless unit, i am not sure. my host computer is in my basement so i don't know if i would get good signal. do you think i could put the transmitter outside?
from what i got from the picture you took the line out of the usb adaptor and plugged that into the idmx then the second plug on the idmx you used to feed the lor box, correct?
usb---------idmx first rj-45 port---------idmx second rj-45----------lor
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The Transmitter is designed to go outside. It is why it hooks to DM xso you can run dmx cable from your computer to the outside and put the Transmitter where it can reach everything. Some people are able to leave it inside and not even run cable outside but it depends on house type and where.
RJ
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ok yes that did really help, thanks. i might use the wireless unit, i am not sure. my host computer is in my basement so i don't know if i would get good signal. do you think i could put the transmitter outside?
from what i got from the picture you took the line out of the usb adaptor and plugged that into the idmx then the second plug on the idmx you used to feed the lor box, correct?
usb---------idmx first rj-45 port---------idmx second rj-45----------lor
yes, that is correct. The Cat-5 connectors on the iDMX can be either in or out...doesn't matter.
I had my TX upstairs on the second floor of my house broadcasting and didn't have a single problem last year. I have heard/seen the ver 2 TX/RX will be even stronger, so I wouldn't be concerned about the basement. Like RJ said, they can go outside.