DiyLightAnimation
Hardware => Lynx Smart String => Topic started by: otto on December 09, 2012,
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Hi Guys,
Looking ahead to xmas lights 2013, is it possible to use SS to form a video screen?
And if so, whats the software to use?
Regards
Otto
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IMHO it would be too costly to use for a video screen. figure out what pixel density you would want and start pricing. A video projector would probably be cheaper.
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There's no probably about it, project would be MUCH cheaper and way easier. Just think, you would be starting from scratch on how to make a picture. It would be like reinventing the wheel.
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a projector also has more colors.
rgb pixels are limited in the color output. (you can't make brown)
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What are you trying to accomplish?
I made a matrix (which is a low res video screen) formed into a megatree. Really cool / fun to use in the show. I have both patterns and pictures scroll across during the show.
If you apply some gamma correction, you can make just about any color. I have a tan color in my business logo and I'm displaying that almost perfectly. All depends on what you need to accomplish.
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thebaronn over at LSP did this here is a link to his post about it, there is a video on post #5: http://www.lightshowpro.com/rants-raves/3097-halloween-story-rave-rant.html
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Thanks for the reply's.
I was going to be building a SS Mega tree and having a very high count of SS strings on it. I am going to be using the Nutcracker Site for some spiral effects and Gifs etc. but would be nice to be able to add a bit of video.
Its just a thought at the moment, may be not possible. But hey, programming spirals effects into a Mega tree was a nightmare until Nutcracker came along, so may be in the near future there may be some software available to do this? After all the hardware is ahead of the software.
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You can use nutcracker with animated gifs.
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I did this exact thing this year. I now have pics of the grinch moving across my megatree. It works wonderfully, especially with lsp and their transition capability. I did my entire show with video.
I'll try to update the videos by Thursday on the site so you can see my grinch, etc.
www.liptonlights.com
Go to pics and vids, then 2012 videos. Feel so close or sugar plum fairy are probably 2 decent examples of the video jumbotrontree...
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Pixels this year are $0.40 each.
By the time you add ssc's, hub, power supply, cables you are prob near one dollar each.
The LOR ccr's are around $5 each. Our hobby helps.
A very small resolution of 100x100 would therefore cost you $10,000
On the more common resolutions people make, something like 32x42 would be around $1,400.
More in the budget range.
Animated gifs and other effects work, display a video, not so much
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My plan for next year is a video wall, 24 horizontal by up to 40 vertical (and I reserve the right to change that depending on my wife's intervention).
It will be well over $1000, but I already have a lot of what I need except for the pixels. My intent is to use PVC square tubes. I also plan to use one controller per tube. Personal preference. It will probably take 6 of the 8 universes Pixelnet gives me. If I need DMX, there will be at least 2 Active Hubs. Nutcracker will figure heavily in the programming and influence some of my layout decisions.
I don't think I'll use Flex strips, though. That was my original plan, but I'm using the metal squares this year and they are extremely easy to work with and their distance between pixels is good "as is" but can be moved closer to fit the required length. Their sticky pads hold very well also.
Being mounted on PVC tubes, they will be relatively portable, though long, and I have a good storage area that will keep them flat and undamaged.
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Not to burst any bubbles but as you should know, the relay for life event is probably considered as a commercial use of the product and Lynks equipment is not allowed to be used for that purpose.
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I agree with tbone321 you agree not to use Lynx hardware in any commercial setting.
Rick R.
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what makes it a "commercial" event is that it now creates a liability if something goes wrong. The devices are not UL listed, and the build manual of each piece of equipment is listed for education purposes only.
there's been among others, community theatre, public park, churches, and other public venues where RJ has mentioned that it is not allowed.
There are devices out there that you can buy already made that control the strings. But you'd have to go to another site for that.
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Jon you can argue over words all you want to but if RJ decides you are in violation of the rules he can and will ban you from the site along with take legal action. Its important to remember that the Lynx hardware is Not UL rated and using the boards in a public area you are creating a legal problem for yourself along with RJ and this site.
Rick R.
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If you are interested in building a LED RGB matrix PM me. I can give you an honest price breakdown with the items I used.
For 2012 we had a 48X80 matrix with video that looked great (even came out pretty good on the youtube video) much brighter than any projector and all the colors you need. I know a projector is cheaper, but everyone has one. And the matrix is just awesome!
Rudolph Mix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crJ4J1rtGyI
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If you are interested in building a LED RGB matrix PM me. I can give you an honest price breakdown with the items I used.
For 2012 we had a 48X80 matrix with video that looked great (even came out pretty good on the youtube video) much brighter than any projector and all the colors you need. I know a projector is cheaper, but everyone has one. And the matrix is just awesome!
Rudolph Mix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crJ4J1rtGyI
I was impressed by how usable the resolution of your 48x80 matrix was. Mine will be smaller (1/4 of the size at 24x40) but I wasn't planning to do video, just text and graphics. I considered a projector, but can't do rear projection where I want the screen and "... everyone has one" does apply! The LED matrix is not common yet.