I wish you had included a guideline summary without my having to go back and reread the whole SS annoucement for the details which I will get to. I know that I want to replace two 90 ft strings of lights, one for my roof top and one for my gutters, but need to figure out how many nodes that would be and how many controllers that would require.
Just an FYI,
Not sure where a few of you are coming up with $.50 a node. Please reread the thread if you are basing your numbers on that and them update if needed.
Thank you.
RJ
I need a little help figureing this out, currently I have three mega trees with 24 strings, per tree, of m5 leds with 70 leds per string. I would like to replace all of this with nodes. How many nodes would I need?Well it depends on what COLORS you are currently using. Keep in mind that one SS node replaces 4 (red green blue and white) discrete LEDs so if you are running RGB and W in your 24 strings you would only need 6 * 70 or 420 nodes per tree (6=24/4) to get the equivalent color capability. Of course if you are running only red green and blue strings, the math would be a bit different.
Ken
Then I need about 5000 nodes
Ken
I want to get around 500, but the wife says more, so put me down for 1000 / 1024 nodes.
If at .50 Im in at 1000
GP
If at .50 Im in at 1000
GP
Please read the information they are not $.50
Would someone show me where it says $.50 other than the users here saying this.
RJ
I think RJ's post came off extremely harsh there and not in keeping with the holiday spirit. :-\
I believe it has been stated that the nodes COULD cost $.63 each, but just like everything else here, as more are purchased the price goes down. There is never a significant decrease in price but the cost does go down. For instance, the nodes aren't going to cost a penny, but they will definitely be cheaper than what person would pay if they purchased just one.
If at .50 Im in at 1000
GP
Please read the information they are not $.50
Would someone show me where it says $.50 other than the users here saying this.
RJ
If at .50 Im in at 1000
GP
Please read the information they are not $.50
Would someone show me where it says $.50 other than the users here saying this.
RJ
RJ, I think I accidentally started that rumor - my bad - Please forgive me. I read your "around $.63 a node" in the original thread and rounded it down my head. But in my defense, I view .63 as AROUND .50 (close enough for government work).
but I would prefer to inject the power myself without a hub unless the hub does some sort of signal work and is needed.
Well no dancing with the green women for two weeks as punishment! ;D
RJ
I count ~78400 (using the lower ends of people's estimates). That is almost $50k at $0.63.
So it was YOU !!
Well no dancing with the green women for two weeks as punishment! ;D
RJ
A couple questions, additional parts to run these wireless? I am assuming hopefully just a hub and wireless receiver and can you use a dmx splitter on the out side of the hub to control 2 or more strands to simply do the same thing.
also the most channels I think I saw from one dongle was 4096 I think I read and I wanted to make sure its possible to run two or more dongles.
Cas,
Of course since you guys have better software for us anyway this is not an issue right.
RJ
In the vixen/LSP plugin for the E131 gateway (EthConGateway - www.j1sys.com), it has an option to change the output speed (I was running mine at 40ms) and how often to "refresh" the output on channels that don't have changed data (like in the LOR protocol) - mine was every 4th cycle. So, it would appear that you can offload some of the work into the hardware if it supports that (like the Enttec Pro vs the open).
I would think about 1100 nodes, if the coop is too early in 2011 then I would have to skip it and hope there is a second coop later.
I would like to use more but I’m in doubt how they will work in a big scale.
Hardware: 20ft mega tree = 240inches / 3.5inchesXnode = 68nodes per string * 16strings = 1088 nodes TOTAL
Data: 1100nodes * 3chXnode = 3300channels x 40FPS (frame per second 1000ms/25ms) = 132000frames x 10bitsXframe = 1320000 = 1.3Mb
So the data throughput needs to be at least 1.3M baud rate.
I would like to see how Vixen behaves at that rate since rendering the UI and keep a constant 1.3M baud can be a challenge without start to get UI/Audio/Data unsyncs.
Anyway I think Vixen is not the solution for Nodes since create sequence can be a challenge and we have xLights already that can provide the networking infrastructure, so I guess Vixen won’t be a candidate for SSs.
Cas.
In the vixen/LSP plugin for the E131 gateway (EthConGateway - www.j1sys.com), it has an option to change the output speed (I was running mine at 40ms) and how often to "refresh" the output on channels that don't have changed data (like in the LOR protocol) - mine was every 4th cycle. So, it would appear that you can offload some of the work into the hardware if it supports that (like the Enttec Pro vs the open).
Between 512 and 1024 depending on when the Coop starts.
If i wanted to get 128 nodes, and I'm just starting out, what other equipment do i need? and can i get it in this coop? and what would the cost be? what is i got 256 nodes?
is the cat5 cable built as a normal ethernet 100baseT wiring, or is it custom? i have a spool of normal cat5e cable (not the cheap stuff) witth this work i fi just make my own cables?
*128 pixels themselves: $90-$100, depending upon shipping from China.
*Dongle (if you don't have one): ~$45.
*Hub: ~$30.
*ATX power supply: ~$25.
*Controllers (need at least one, though your topography may require more): ~$8.
*Cat5 cabling: ~$10.
Just some food for thought...
Will we be allowed to order any legth in the coop, or will there be some standard sizes to choose from?
Thanks!
RM
So we are going to have a number of different lenghts.
Like
10 , 20, 35, 50, 70, 100, 128
That way you will be able to order fairly close to what you think you want.
Then as Eddy said you can cut and put them back together all you want. so if you wanted 90 order a 70 and a 20 and put them together. It will cost the same.
Since they come bundled already there would be enought difference we can sort them by weight for size this way.
Make sense to everyone.
RJ
Sorry, what I meant is that in future Smart String co-ops, the light strings won't be included in the co-op, and we would be responsible for getting them ourselves? Or would that not be possible because of certification/whatever to import them?
RJ,
Will a version 1 dongle support the pixel net for the smartstring or will it need to be the Version 2 dongle?
Thanks,
Dan
RJ,
Will a version 1 dongle support the pixel net for the smartstring or will it need to be the Version 2 dongle?
Thanks,
Dan
Sorry, what I meant is that in future Smart String co-ops, the light strings won't be included in the co-op, and we would be responsible for getting them ourselves? Or would that not be possible because of certification/whatever to import them?
So do we have to have these particular nodes or can any RGB color changing light strand (with modification of course) work?
<-----Cheap Skate! Would any of these work?
http://www.birddogdistributing.com/led-color-changing-rgb-light-set-spacing-p-1059.html?utm_campaign=google-simple&utm_medium=product_search&utm_source=google-simple
http://ledwholesalers-com-inc.amazonwebstore.com/Color-Changing-LED-RGB-Ball-String/M/B004981K8K.htm?traffic_src=froogle&utm_medium=CSE&utm_source=froogle
http://www.imaginarycolours.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=CS
http://www.elementalled.com/shop-by-item/rgb-color-changing-led-lights/color-changing-leds.html
Oh okay, was just hoping to spread out the purchases during the year so I don't have to pay for a divorce or funeral too.
There has to be some way to justify this to him..........................
Put me down for 800 <fp.
Since the SSC coop closed early I missed out on them (by 1 day :( ), so no controllers means no nodes :(
Noone said anything about only 1 coop for the whole year. you do realize that?Since the SSC coop closed early I missed out on them (by 1 day :( ), so no controllers means no nodes :(
With my luck I'd by the lights and there'd be no more SSC coops this year and I wouldn't even get to test my SSs let alone use them in a show.
RJ, will all future Smart String purchases need to be done within a coop (due to licensing)?
I'll get at least 1,000...trying to swing more than that though