Author Topic: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP  (Read 2352 times)

Offline urthegman

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Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« on: October 10, 2013, »
Would exporting an effect as an LOR .lms sequence or into an LOR .lms(not sure which it would be?) sequence, opening that sequence in LSP and copying effects from the .lms sequence then pasting them into an LSP .msq sequence work or be a viable way to use Nutcracker effects in LSP???

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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2013, »
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Would exporting an effect as an LOR .lms sequence or into an LOR .lms(not sure which it would be?) sequence, opening that sequence in LSP and copying effects from the .lms sequence then pasting them into an LSP .msq sequence work or be a viable way to use Nutcracker effects in LSP???

yes, that could be done.

but here is the most common way that lsp gets worked.

create your show in LPS, have music synced to all your non-rgb devices. Say you had 64 channels of lynx express. maybe you also had some dumb rgb strings.
After you finish everything except your rgb megatree or rgb stuff, you export your final sequence as a conductor file (*.seq)
OR you use frankr's Light Elf program to take your msq file and export it in a form xlights can use.

now you launch xlights, import your song. You then define the RGB models that match your megatree or matrix. Now add in effects against timing marks of your song.

when you play your song from xlights you will see of your original work plus the rgb effects added.

You could export your song as lms and then import it back to LSP so you can play your song in LSP.
I think most people (who are going to use LSP and Nutcracker/xlights) will just do the one way path
LSP for everything except their RGB device => export as a conductor file => Import conductor file and change to xseq xlights file.
=> define a model and add in xlight effects => Play show from xlights/conductor/pi player.
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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2013, »
The old nutcracker web site would output a file that could be used as a pattern in lsp.

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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2013, »
REALLY dumb question Sean, but if we import the conductor file into Nutcracker from LSP and edit the new RGB effects, can we export again into conductor format for a Lynx Conductor?  Or do we need to run from Nutcracker?

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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2013, »
LSP and xLights/Nutcracker can both generate conductor-formatted sequences.
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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, »
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Just read that on the Nutcracker site... Thanks

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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2013, »
I actually already had luck getting my horizontal matrix to play in the preview window!!! So I guess I understand some of the steps, now to figure out how to add effects for where there is no text, only music!!!

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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2013, »
I guess my next question would be, How do I add timing marks? Is there a video I can watch, I hate to take up everyones valuable time.

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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2013, »
Doh!!! Just saw the tutorials section! Off to investigate!!!

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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, »
Getting there, when I am Inserting a Row and it says start time, what do I put??? Say the effect is 2:55:75 into the song, what would I put for the start time?

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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
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Getting there, when I am Inserting a Row and it says start time, what do I put??? Say the effect is 2:55:75 into the song, what would I put for the start time?
we do not accept 2:55:57, you would instead put 175.75 seconds

it is on our to do list to allow the alternate timming as input
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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2013, »
Thanks Sean!!!!! I don't know how many times I can tell you how AWESOME you are!!!!!!!

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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2013, »
I am guessing I should add all the timing marks first, THEN add the effects to each timing mark???

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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2013, »
Also, where is the New Preset button?

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Re: Indirect route of using Nutcracker in LSP
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2013, »
P.s. I know you have a bunch of songs with the timing marks done and I know about putting the marks in using Audacity, but I have my own timing marks already done in my LSP sequences.