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Hardware => Lynx USB DMX Dongle => Topic started by: TexasStingray on January 31, 2012,

Title: Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic
Post by: TexasStingray on January 31, 2012,

Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic, 8/14, 18/20, 28, or the 40

Thanks
Scott

Title: Re: Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic
Post by: holland lights on January 31, 2012,

The dmx dongle uses a 28 zif socket. The PIC18F2450 required for the dongle has 28 pins. Might buy the other sockets, as the other controllers chips use different chips.

Title: Re: Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic
Post by: memphislights on January 31, 2012,

I bought one of these "universal" zif sockets for my Pickit.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MCU-Universal-ZIF-socket-use-PICkit-2-PICkit3-ICD-/110817099587?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cd36bf43 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MCU-Universal-ZIF-socket-use-PICkit-2-PICkit3-ICD-/110817099587?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cd36bf43)

The only thing that it does not include is a cable.

Title: Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic
Post by: rm357 on January 31, 2012,

Sockets are mostly for the older hardware - USB dongle, freestyle, DMX ssr4, & mr16.

All of the new stuff has a six pin icsp programming header on the board - EtD, express, ssc, active hub, wireless modules, aether, aeon, bobcat, & dmx tester.

Title: Re: Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic
Post by: bcstuff on February 01, 2012,

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I bought one of these "universal" zif sockets for my Pickit.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MCU-Universal-ZIF-socket-use-PICkit-2-PICkit3-ICD-/110817099587?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cd36bf43 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MCU-Universal-ZIF-socket-use-PICkit-2-PICkit3-ICD-/110817099587?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cd36bf43)

The only thing that it does not include is a cable.

I have the same, but mine included a cable. I bought mine directly from their website, sure-electronics.com, but 10.99 with free shipping is cheaper then I paid (9.99 + shipping).
Remove the top plastic cover and it makes it easier to use the zif sockets.

It is nice to be able to program a chip off the board, especially if the board is in your yard and you are swapping a chip.

Title: Re: Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic
Post by: pk on February 01, 2012,

Here is the section in the Wiki with a list of members who can program PICs plus two "barebones" programers.  I have built these barebone programmers and they worked fine with Pickit 2 and 3. 

Title: Re: Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic
Post by: bcstuff on February 01, 2012,

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Here is the section in the Wiki with a list of members who can program PICs

http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=PIC_Programming (http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=PIC_Programming)

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plus two "barebones" programers.  I have built these barebone programmers and they worked fine with Pickit 2 and 3.

http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Red_Neck_Pic24_programmer (http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Red_Neck_Pic24_programmer)
http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bare_bones_PIC18F_programmer_interface (http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bare_bones_PIC18F_programmer_interface)

The links PK referenced.   :D

Title: Re: Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic
Post by: jnealand on February 01, 2012,

You might look at this chart in the wiki
http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=J1SYS_boards_jumper_chart (http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=J1SYS_boards_jumper_chart)

Title: Re: Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic
Post by: Beanbag109 on March 19, 2012,

The "Red Neck" PIC programing with a breadboard requires either 4.7k resis, or a 0.1uf Cap. can I use the 4.7k and 0.1uf from the dongle BOM to program the PIC before I solder them on to the PCB?

Title: Re: Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic
Post by: tbone321 on March 19, 2012,

Sure you can, why not?

Title: Which ZIF for i need to use to program the pic
Post by: rm357 on March 19, 2012,

My first pics for a USB dongle were programmed just strait wired to an old socket...

Now I have one of those 40 pin universal adapters, but there are no caps or resistors... Seems to work fine.

RM