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Software => Light Show Pro => Topic started by: jnealand on October 06, 2013,
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I keep reading that there will be a new release of LSP on Oct 1. It is now Oct 6 and I still see nothing about it. Anyone have some updated info?
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Hi, Jim...
2.8 has been released... You can find the info on the LSP website :-)
Dan
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Thanks for the info. I have been running the minleon check for update and it still does not show anything even today. I also have never received an email or anything from minleon about a new release even though I am a registered owner of 2.5. Strange marketing.
The update must not work because 2.8 requires a new license, ie. and upgrade rather than an update. I have 2.5 advanced, but only played with it. I will have think about spending the upgrade money, but since I do not know if I would use it or not at this point I think I will hold off for now. I will be using a lot of nutcracker effects and everything I read indicates it can be a pain to use them with LSP. Also not sure if I have time to convert all my existing sequences which is why I never converted to 2.5, I was having to much trouble getting them to work. I have seen better techniques for importing now, but not sure if I want to go thru the process at this stage of the season.
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I am on the fence but will probably cave if I hear good things. I am a little disappointed the scheduler got all the attention. I really want/need to learn about importing nutcracker into LSP and think some really exciting things could happen once I figure it how.
For some odd reason I just realized that my Zeus order is effectively 3x the amount of channels than my current show and the total channel count takes me over 32k channels and into the LSP Ultimate License and the price is "contact us". :o Staying just under 8k this year but it was not easy.
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Group 2 pixels and cut your channel count in half.
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I am on the fence but will probably cave if I hear good things. I am a little disappointed the scheduler got all the attention. I really want/need to learn about importing nutcracker into LSP and think some really exciting things could happen once I figure it how.
For some odd reason I just realized that my Zeus order is effectively 3x the amount of channels than my current show and the total channel count takes me over 32k channels and into the LSP Ultimate License and the price is "contact us". :o Staying just under 8k this year but it was not easy.
I was disappointed too, luckily I was I the two year upgrade so I got it but still kind of bummed. I understand the scheduler is important but it wouldn't exist without sequences created in the creator :)
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The update must not work because 2.8 requires a new license, ie. and upgrade rather than an update.
That is very disappointing news.
Normally, you don't pay for minor updates, so moving from 2.5 to 2.8 would not cost money. Usually, money is spent when moving to a new major version... 2.5 to 3.0.
Maybe there were not enough changes to justify calling it a major release... especially if they were bug fixes to address outstanding problems.
As feared, this must be an opportunity for Minleon to capture some income from their investment into this product.
:(
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Can I ask some you software guys a question? I have 2.5 advanced and would consider upgrading to 2.8 pro if it was the better buy now than upgrading advanced 2.8 now and then later upgrading to pro. Am I off?
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The update must not work because 2.8 requires a new license, ie. and upgrade rather than an update.
That is very disappointing news.
Normally, you don't pay for minor updates, so moving from 2.5 to 2.8 would not cost money. Usually, money is spent when moving to a new major version... 2.5 to 3.0.
Maybe there were not enough changes to justify calling it a major release... especially if they were bug fixes to address outstanding problems.
As feared, this must be an opportunity for Minleon to capture some income from their investment into this product.
:(
The scheduler was rebuilt from the ground up to handle the thousands of channels that RGB adds to lightshows. As that was the part of the software that was causing most people problems. It has a much more efficient playback engine than the sequencer now. There wasn't enough time to completely rebuild the sequencer this year so they are concentrating on fixing issues like copy/paste and program crashes and other bugs in v2.5. They will continue working on any bugs people report until the season is over and then they will work on completely rebuilding the sequencer. For 49.00 to upgrade I think it was worth it based on all the positive reports I was seeing from the beta test members.
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You also get two years of updates with the upgrade.
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When you buy an upgrade you do not get another two years of updates. The two years of updates is only for new licenses. I went through this over the weekend with them. I told them they need to update their website to better reflect this.
Todd
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Great info. Just one for upgrades or something else? <pop..
It would be sweet if they again offered a deal during the season... Not sure I would have tried LSP without that incentive.
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One thing I can report about the sequencer is that cut and paste is fixed (at least what I have read so far) when you go to paste something it goes right where you want it. I most likely will upgrade but I am not happy to hear that there releasing the sequencer in "beta" and hopefully will not be charging again for updates. There have been some other minor fixes to the sequencer:
(from the LSP website)
The following major sequencer enhancements, changes, and corrections will be part of the planned V2.8 sequencer ‘beta’ release:
1. Child Matrix functionality – allowing to more easily create a Matrix within a Matrix
2. New Macros –
a. light wands
b. line art
3. Existing Macros enhanced –
a. More color palette selections throughout
b. Block dropper – addition of triangles and crosses, and more directional
c. Marquee – significantly improved throughout
d. 2-dimensional mega tree - enhanced
4. User xml files now stored in my documents folder ‘My Lightshow Imports’
5. Log and backup files have option to auto delete according to user settings in the configuration
6. Timing color defaults to non-shared timing marks (red)
7. Automatic file maintenance. Set this to enable auto deletes of log and backup files
a. Days to keep old log files
b. Days to keep backup files
8. Voice over files moved outside of normal install. If you want to use them you will be asked if you want to download them at the end of the install procedure
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I just installed the update this AM before work and am going to give it a shot when I get home. I'm happy to see that they fixed some of the copy/paste issues (that were driving me crazy before)
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You need a new license code for 2.8, but if you are within your free upgrade period, there is no fee... You just have to send an email to request the new code and wait an hour or so... Pretty painless :-)
Also, 2.8 and 2.5 can reside on the same machine... No need to uninstall 2.5...
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I bought LSP 2 years ago when it wasn't ready for prime time, paid to update it last year when it still wasn't ready and now that my upgrade date is past by about a month, I have no intention of buying it a third time and continuing to waste my time, money and the space on my hard drive. Time for me to give up on LSP and look into Vixen 3 or HLS as an upgrade from my current Vixen 2.1 with Nutcracker.
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Group 2 pixels and cut your channel count in half.
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Good point. Might even be able to do groups of 3 with my flex strips. Not sure if I want to fool with it for this season but definitely something I will look into and test.
I plan to demo 2.8 when time allows.
Anyone think there could be issues using 32bit 2.5 files in 64bit 2.8? Or any other compatibility issues?
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So far, so good. Since you can run v2.5 and V2.8 side by side I doubt you will see any issues.
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Thanks George.
I assume it would not be far to compare the performance of the 2.8 demo compared to 8k channels of 2.5?
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The only thing, I really tested so far was twinkle and shimmer output, since I didn't realize shimmer wasn't working last year, it was my only worry. And since it worked I was appeased for the moment.
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Has anyone tried the new scheduler? I was trying to use it today and I can't even get it to install correctly. Keeps giving me an error.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/mhv91h.jpg)
I haven't built my conductor yet so I am kind of frustrated. Im using windows 7 64bit and I tried to install as an administrator to see if that fixed things. It did not.
Grant
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I don't know why you are having that problem, but if I could recommend something, I would recommend posting this over on the LSP site as well, Ryan the person who rewrote the scheduler has been more active over there and I am sure he would be more likely to see your problem and help you if you posted it there. JMHO George
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I went ahead and posted over there. I was too lazy to make an account last night. Little did I know... I already had an account with LSP forums. Let's hope its something simple.
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What's in the log files located here:
c://Programdata/minleon/lightshowpro/server/logs/logfile
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They just released another update for the scheduler: http://lightshowpro.com/lightshow-change-log/4032-weekly-release-wednesday-10-9-13-a.html
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Just reading this thread briefly the other day I decided to ask for the upgrade. I have been a user of LSP since at least 2.0.
LSP has always been gracious to send me a new License key for the upgrades.
I loaded 2.8 last night and had no problem using 64 bit version on Win7.
I am sorry you guys are having issues. With that said, I agree with urthegman and the suggestion in interacting with LSP/Minleon on their website and email. Again, they have always helped me through any bugs or problems.
Hope everyone is getting fired up for your Halloween and Christmas Shows.
Good luck!
Greg
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Tried 2.8 and acts wonky as all the 64 bit releases did. I think it's the codecs. Sticking to last 32 bit (on a 64bit i7 box) for this year. If it worked well I woulda upgraded...
Also, you cannot run 2.5 and 2.8 side by side...