DiyLightAnimation
Hardware => Lynx Smart String => Topic started by: ElectricCraft1 on November 24, 2014,
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I have a possible alternative to ray wu in the works. This is someone i have a long term relationship with and have asked him to provide the diy commnity with an inexpensive pixel solution that has good quality. I will provide his contact info as soon as i have the pricing where it should be. I believe he will do smart strings for $0.25 per pixel, 2.5 inch spacing. Quality control will also be of the utmost importance. Besides smart strings, what other requirements do you have? I wil arrange the best possible prices for all that we need. Again, this will be direct buy.
Branden
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That sounds good but that light spacing there may be a little tight.
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Please tell me what is required, or preferred. Any other types of pixels that you can think of as well. Once i have requirements, i will arrange everything with the vendor.
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Spacing I've always used in the past is 3 inches for my holes so the wiring would probably be 3.5. Flex strips besides the nodes is the other type I use.
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I assume the 1809 ic? Just making sure because I am going to get pricing for all used pixels, therefore its not just diy, but also diyc community as well. the 3 1/2 is noted, thx.
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I am liking the newer WS2812b pixels at 60 pixels/meter.
I like the WS2812 panels -- 8x16 pixels.
Strips and bullet-style nodes... are both biggies.
3-core and 4-core waterproof connectors... and extension cords are good to have.
with the pixel strings, having the ability to get waterproof connectors already attached is nice -- but also specifying pinouts so that the string are compatible with our existing gear is a extra nice feature.
5v and 12v options are good.
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This is what I use in my show
Nodes - (1804)
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/701799/209889132-495658226/128-node-LED-pixel-string-DC12V-input-new-model-IP68.html
Flex Strip (1809)
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/701799/209843764-425556741/4m-waterproof-LED-digital-strip-by-tube-DC12V-input-without-controller-10pcs-TM1809IC-m-30pcs-5050.html
Nodes - (2811)
http://www.holidaycoro.com/Smart-Pixel-LED-RGB-8mm-12mm-Nodes-12v-DC-p/711.htm
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Please tell me what is required, or preferred. Any other types of pixels that you can think of as well. Once i have requirements, i will arrange everything with the vendor.
I would say that 3 1/2 inch spacing is the preferred size. Many like to use 3 inch and that extra half an inch makes mounting the nodes SOOOOO much easier.
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I want to be clear on this. There is no coop on this. The op is only going to provide where to go order them. He has informed me he is not involved in the company in any way and makes nothing from the sell. Anything more would be a violation of our rules. Also as always the forum is not involved and any issues you incounter is between you and the seller. In the past similar has been done and there were issues so it is buyer beware.
RJ
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I agree with rj, but please be aware i am doing a lot of footwork to make things as easy as possible. We will have our own part numbers with prices specific to those numbers, as well as a keyword used when ordering so the vendor is aware that these are the prices for the community. I am making no profit from these sales, just trying to make the lights more cost effective since there is still a significant markup between dead cost and wholesale. I am in the process of making an excel spreadsheet with all different types of lights used not only on dla, but as many of the diy communities as i can, sinc c e most use ray wu. As soon as this spreadsheet is complete, the vendor and i will work out the specifics. This will not help us this year, but will be available fror an option very early 2015. I hope to have prices about 15 to 20% above dead cost. Shipping will have multiple options, hopefully as well to keep costs down. Any questions dont hesitate to ask
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Ok, so the spreadsheet is mostly done. All I have left is pictures and a few items for Falcon Christmas and auschristmas. Please check it out and let me know if any changes need to be made, or things added.
Thanks,
Branden
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In the past, Ray has made-things-right when there has been a factory or design issue with his product. He will send replacements, and has even refunded money when the defect rates go beyond an acceptable level.
The Technicolor pixels last year were a fiasco... but Ray still made us whole despite orders of thousands of dollars.
Will this new supplier be just as accommodating? with even lower margins, I would expect the customer experience to suffer.
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I have made sure that quality control is very important, but yes, there will be warranty involved. I have purchased other types of led products from him, and never once had issues, with quality or warranty. For him, he would be gaining thousands of new customers.
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Just sent the spreadsheet to the vendor today, ill keep everyone informed.
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Be curious how this pans out. I've been buying some Minleon products to get into the real quality items..
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I assume this is from China? Getting reasonable shipping and not being hit with extra surprise fees would be a bonus.
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Just to let all you know that holidaycoro.com has same strings for 39 cents per... WAAAAAAY cheaper shipping!
http://www.HolidayCoro.com/Smart-Pixel-LED-RGB-8mm-12mm-Nodes-12v-DC-p/711.htm
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Ok, finally have pricing. 8% below ray wu, with 1 year warranty. I am updating the price list then will post it.
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Been busy with work, it will be soon
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Just an FYI, Ray's prices went down on the bullet nodes from the wiki. $0.30 per node now on 100 ct and $0.31 per node on the 128 ct.
I also noticed for the DLA nodes on your spreadsheet you have listed as silicone injected which were the type we had problems with the year they came out. They should be epoxy resin filled in a jacket nodes. Also the pcbs should have conformal coating.
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Just to let all you know that holidaycoro.com has same strings for 39 cents per... WAAAAAAY cheaper shipping!
http://www.HolidayCoro.com/Smart-Pixel-LED-RGB-8mm-12mm-Nodes-12v-DC-p/711.htm
Or .30 cents per pixel, no tariff surprises and US shipping cost.
http://www.holidaycoro.com/product-p/711-ps.htm
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Just to let all you know that holidaycoro.com has same strings for 39 cents per... WAAAAAAY cheaper shipping!
http://www.HolidayCoro.com/Smart-Pixel-LED-RGB-8mm-12mm-Nodes-12v-DC-p/711.htm
Or .30 cents per pixel, no tariff surprises and US shipping cost.
http://www.holidaycoro.com/product-p/711-ps.htm
Are the wires UV protected Dave? and any options on spacing and or wire color on quantities in the 25 sets or more?
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Do any of the vendors have uv protection in the wires or covers?
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Commercial units might. If they did, I would look into keeping the framing lights up all year and just set the colors for the current holiday. ;D fn
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Do any of the vendors have uv protection in the wires or covers?
Yes, the Minleon lights I have on the "mega tree" are UV protected, the aren't inexpensive however, but out of 850 pixels there are no failures, vs the standard pixa bulbs, ray wu nodes.
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Ok, i will let them know. Also, whatever prices ray wu has, it will be 8% below.
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i don't recall seeing the product list... will they sell everything available in Ray's store?
I get a lot of pigtails... so cheaper options would be nice.
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i don't recall seeing the product list... will they sell everything available in Ray's store?
I get a lot of pigtails... so cheaper options would be nice.
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http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=14316.msg177478#msg177478 (http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=14316.msg177478#msg177478)
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What ever became of this?
Thanks,
-Keith
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anybody hear of anything with this?