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Title: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on December 15, 2012,
Well, I am ahead of schedule, but I got my videos done for this year already.  Thanks to RJ and Sean...this year's show was the best ever.  The colors don't come through as well as they do in person, but they aren't too bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUf6cOcPGI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq1NpcOEQCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqNdQ0cslbY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p0SYQUsHHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnfeZ1owDqc

Thanks,
-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: sjb on December 15, 2012,
Great job Keith

Steve
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: denverstone on December 15, 2012,
I really like the work you did with the MEGA tree!!!   Very cool sequences!
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: garyh on December 15, 2012,
love it!  Nutcracker looks awesome on the tree  :)

Great job!
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: sirloinofbeef001 on December 15, 2012,
Awesome. I really liked it alot.
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: SteveMaris on December 16, 2012,
Winter palace = Awesome.
Fine job!
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: bassmants on December 16, 2012,
We are not worthy!  Awesome.  I am excited to move into RGB, yet scared at the same time.  Would you mind sharing some details of the mega tree/build etc. 

Superb!
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Gary on December 16, 2012,
As awesome as your mega tree is, I love the self-restraint you demonstrated not to have it on all the time on all the songs; you turn it on at just the right moment. Excellent sequencing.

I must also say that your display has come a long way in three years! (Hmmm... that's three rhymes in one sentence)
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: kevr on December 16, 2012,
Wow these are great, I have to get started on a tree made for next year, these effect look so  good.

Kev :-)
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: mmais68569 on December 16, 2012,
Keith is that a full round mega tree or half ? Would you share on the assembly of it.

       Thanks Mike
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: zwiller on December 16, 2012,
Keith, great job.  I will check the rest out when I have more time but that first vid rocks!  Great job with syncing the lights to music, tasteful lines, color choices, and of course the mega tree is la piece de resistance...  You give me hope that I can one day add one since the other elements can be seen through it when not in use. 

I cannot even remember if we got to the bottom of that node issue...  I see no problems at all!
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: caretaker on December 16, 2012,
Keith as the others have said very nice job!  Yes please let us know if that is a half or full round mega tree. I am considering changing mine from full to half for better density. 
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Mike Hill on December 16, 2012,
KEITH!!!!

AWESOME!

I wish I could see this first hand.  I may have to make a trip over.  When are you taking down the lights?  July?

HAHA!

I will be in the area the first part of January.....driving from Indy to Louie.

I'm so envious right now....
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: urthegman on December 16, 2012,
Great work Lonewolf!!!!!
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: NavyGator on December 16, 2012,
Kieth,

Amazing work. You did a great job.

Rich
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Jeffl on December 16, 2012,
We need some specs on that mega tree.  I'm not sure what the rest of your display is doing as I'm sitting in daze watching the mega tree. :)
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on December 16, 2012,
Thanks for the nice comments!!

My megatree is based off of Walter Monkhouse's color motions tree.  It is half a tree with 16 strings.  The topper is one I used the last few years, I just added more hooks to it.  It is sitting in a "portable hole" and uses a JUMP center pole also designed by Walter and tweaked a little by me since I have a 68" stroke hydraulic cylinder to raise it...although with the smart strings, I just set it up extended with help from someone else.  The top of the strings are about 22' high and the top of the star is about 25'.

The nodes are attached to 5/8" polyester strapping with electrical tape (the wife was a life saver here as she did 90%+ of that work).  The ends attach with d-rings.  I use large zip ties at the bottom to adjust tension to rods driven into the ground.  I made a master string and then used that string to mark off the nodes for the other strings to make the spacing even.  I included a couple of pictures that show parts of the tree.  The horizontal straps keep the vertical strapping oriented correctly so the nodes point out.  For next year, I am going to get some metal banding for those as the polyester tends to warp and bend when you put zip ties on. If you have further questions, let me know.

Thanks,
-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: LtKadeo on December 16, 2012,
Nice job love it !!!

now where did I put that rag so I can wipe the drool off my KB
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: loveroflife96 on December 16, 2012,
Nice LoneWolf!!  How many pixels per strand is that?  Looks GREAT and the sequencing is great.  Still doing old school mega here this year, but maybe next year I'll move into SS.  Got them on the roof this year and loving their versatility and the time it took to set them up versus 4 colors on every item was alot quicker!  Again...great job!

Duane
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: meman on December 17, 2012,
Kieth, that is totally awesome! The strings on the tree look perfectly straight with that webbing...something I have only dreamed of. And the sequencing is spot on...great job man!!

Mike E.
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: moodytx on December 17, 2012,
Kieth,
OUTSTANDING work on Winter Palace !!!

Seems some family issues aroung 2009 occured and I never realized I was on this board until I saw the link to your vid from Sean (Nutcracker) ..

Glad I found my way back ...

Bob Moody
http://moodychristmas.weebly.com
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on December 17, 2012,
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Nice LoneWolf!!  How many pixels per strand is that?  Looks GREAT and the sequencing is great.  Still doing old school mega here this year, but maybe next year I'll move into SS.  Got them on the roof this year and loving their versatility and the time it took to set them up versus 4 colors on every item was alot quicker!  Again...great job!

Duane

84 pixels per strand.  That allows me to have the entire tree, except for the star, on one universe using hybrid mode (4080 channels total).

Thanks for the nice remarks,

-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on December 17, 2012,
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KEITH!!!!

AWESOME!

I wish I could see this first hand.  I may have to make a trip over.  When are you taking down the lights?  July?

HAHA!

I will be in the area the first part of January.....driving from Indy to Louie.

I'm so envious right now....

Mike, was wondering if you ever made it back.  Hopefully they will be down before May...unlike last year.   <fp.  Let me know if you are headed this way and we can talk shop.  There's a good chance that my display will still be up well into January.  Although, with the weather we have been having (60 here yesterday) I could probably take them down anytime.  I'm sure that won't last though.

Thanks for the comments,
-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: sebjsan on December 17, 2012,
WOW, that is some real good sequencing. Very clean.
How did you make your arches?
How did you attach your flexstrips to your roof line?
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on December 17, 2012,
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WOW, that is some real good sequencing. Very clean.
How did you make your arches?
How did you attach your flexstrips to your roof line?

THANKS!!

For the arches, I mounted (with electrical tape) nodes to 15 feet of 1/2" or 3/4" (I think it was 3/4") PVC slid onto re-bar driven in to the ground.  I use the nodes for everything.  For the house, see here and following:

http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=10539.msg143561#msg143561

Thanks again,
-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: jem5136 on December 17, 2012,
I'm close to your area, about 2 hours from Indy, I might have to make the trip to see the show in person. I'm planning on doing a SS mega similar to yours next year, so it'd be fun to watch what it looks like before having one up.
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on December 18, 2012,
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I'm close to your area, about 2 hours from Indy, I might have to make the trip to see the show in person. I'm planning on doing a SS mega similar to yours next year, so it'd be fun to watch what it looks like before having one up.

Sure.  Let me know if you are coming down and I can give you a tour of the setup.  Won't take too long as it is not all that big.

-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Mike Hill on December 18, 2012,
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KEITH!!!!

AWESOME!

I wish I could see this first hand.  I may have to make a trip over.  When are you taking down the lights?  July?

HAHA!

I will be in the area the first part of January.....driving from Indy to Louie.

I'm so envious right now....

Mike, was wondering if you ever made it back.  Hopefully they will be down before May...unlike last year.   <fp.  Let me know if you are headed this way and we can talk shop.  There's a good chance that my display will still be up well into January.  Although, with the weather we have been having (60 here yesterday) I could probably take them down anytime.  I'm sure that won't last though.

Thanks for the comments,
-Keith

I'm going to have some time the first full week of January, but only on Friday morning.  I know you work during the day, but I may just drive by and take a look at the hardware setup thats outside.

I havent been back much this year at all.  That should change this year.  We have a lot going on in Madison.

I will have to make sure I stay over on some weekends so I can pick your brain, bring parts, and learn from what you have done.

Happy Holidays Keith.
Mike
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on December 18, 2012,
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KEITH!!!!

AWESOME!

I wish I could see this first hand.  I may have to make a trip over.  When are you taking down the lights?  July?

HAHA!

I will be in the area the first part of January.....driving from Indy to Louie.

I'm so envious right now....

Mike, was wondering if you ever made it back.  Hopefully they will be down before May...unlike last year.   <fp.  Let me know if you are headed this way and we can talk shop.  There's a good chance that my display will still be up well into January.  Although, with the weather we have been having (60 here yesterday) I could probably take them down anytime.  I'm sure that won't last though.

Thanks for the comments,
-Keith

I'm going to have some time the first full week of January, but only on Friday morning.  I know you work during the day, but I may just drive by and take a look at the hardware setup thats outside.

I havent been back much this year at all.  That should change this year.  We have a lot going on in Madison.

I will have to make sure I stay over on some weekends so I can pick your brain, bring parts, and learn from what you have done.

Happy Holidays Keith.
Mike

Give me a holler in January anyway.  I can take a few minutes to run home if you are interested.  Any other times you are in town, let me know.  Always love to share what little I know.

Merry Christmas,
-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: ThaiWay on December 19, 2012,
Really impressed with your display Keith!  Your elements and sequencing are very appealing.  Very clean and ingenious node installation on the house... and that megatree is giving me serious inspiration for 2013.  What is its diameter?

Merry Christmas,
John
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on December 20, 2012,
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Really impressed with your display Keith!  Your elements and sequencing are very appealing.  Very clean and ingenious node installation on the house... and that megatree is giving me serious inspiration for 2013.  What is its diameter?

Merry Christmas,
John

Thanks!! 

The diameter is 14' at the ground.

-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: RJ on December 21, 2012,
WOW!!!

RJ
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: kgustafson on December 21, 2012,
Great job with the show.

Inspired to add more Christian elements into my show next year. 

Loved the way you told a 'story' with your lights.

Kurt
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Ron on December 21, 2012,
Great display Keith.  Love the mega tree, fantastic job on that and your sequencing is top notch.

Ron
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: therealbigjim on December 23, 2012,
long live the candy canes. great work.
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: coachers on December 23, 2012,
Amazing!
  The whole lay out is so clean and your sequencing is spot on.
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Kwajtony on December 23, 2012,
Let me say WAY COOL.  Nice job incorporating pixels.
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: CW on December 23, 2012,
Very nice job.
less is more, beautiful job with sequencing.

Craig
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: rdebolt on December 23, 2012,
Keith, Like everyone else has said. Absolutely amazing work. Amazing sequencing. Just an over all BEAUTIFUL display!  <res. After that I won't be posting any of mine.  <fp.
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Jeffl on December 23, 2012,
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Keith, Like everyone else has said. Absolutely amazing work. Amazing sequencing. Just an over all BEAUTIFUL display!  <res. After that I won't be posting any of mine.  <fp.

You're not getting off that easy.  We want to see everyone's work.
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: rdebolt on December 24, 2012,
LOL!  <la..
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: mitch09 on January 03, 2013,
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WOW, that is some real good sequencing. Very clean.
How did you make your arches?
How did you attach your flexstrips to your roof line?

THANKS!!

For the arches, I mounted (with electrical tape) nodes to 15 feet of 1/2" or 3/4" (I think it was 3/4") PVC slid onto re-bar driven in to the ground.  I use the nodes for everything.  For the house, see here and following:

http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=10539.msg143561#msg143561

Thanks again,
-Keith
Keith,

How many nodes are on your arches? Are they 10' sticks of pvc?

Thanks,

Ryan
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Jeffl on January 03, 2013,
Where would one find the 5/8" polyester strapping?
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on January 03, 2013,
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Where would one find the 5/8" polyester strapping?

You can get it at most shipping/packaging supply companies.  I think Fastenal carries it.  I believe uline also sells it.  You can also get it from ebay.  Here is one example:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Polyester-Strapping-Banding-Green-5-8-x-035-4000-feet-Plastic-banding-Material-/320982780527?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abc108a6f

I think mine was 0.035" thick.  It comes in other colors.  I got black.

Thanks,
-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on January 03, 2013,
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Great job with the show.

Inspired to add more Christian elements into my show next year. 

Loved the way you told a 'story' with your lights.

Kurt

I really appreciate that.  All I can say is.....Mission Accomplished!!

-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: rogerwh on January 03, 2013,
Are those zip ties securing the strap to the D-Ring?  Or, some other method of attaching?
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on January 03, 2013,
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WOW, that is some real good sequencing. Very clean.
How did you make your arches?
How did you attach your flexstrips to your roof line?

THANKS!!

For the arches, I mounted (with electrical tape) nodes to 15 feet of 1/2" or 3/4" (I think it was 3/4") PVC slid onto re-bar driven in to the ground.  I use the nodes for everything.  For the house, see here and following:

http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=10539.msg143561#msg143561

Thanks again,
-Keith
Keith,

How many nodes are on your arches? Are they 10' sticks of pvc?

Thanks,

Ryan

Well, that is a story unto itself.  I was not too worried about numbers when I started...until I went to sequence.  I had 2 with 50 nodes, I think a couple had 52, one had 53 and one had 54 I think (the node spacing on the strings was not equal).  That may not sound like an issue, but when you go to create nutcracker effects, it means I had 4 models for essentially the same element.  And copy and paste was out for most things.  At any rate, the 2 on the ends are 50 and the ones in the middle are (thanks to null nodes) all programmed for 52.

I used 10' sticks of PVC to make them, but they are 15' long.  They make 10' diameter arcs.  One 10' piece looked too small to me so I used a coupler to make them 15' long.  The 15' arcs made the scale correct with the rest of the yard.  I just cut 3 sticks in half to make the extra 5' since my store did not carry anything longer than 10'.

The joint at the coupler did prove problematic however as the PVC collapsed due to the pretty sharp bend.  radius.  It then caused the arch to deform at the joint...it had a "point".  I added a short piece of 1/2" EMT inside the PVC at the coupler to strengthen the joint.  I also strapped a longer piece of conduit bent at the same radius to the outside at the joint, but I don't think it is really needed.  It was more just a belt and suspenders kind of thing not knowing how it would work for sure and not wanting my arches to spring apart in the middle of my show. 

That may be more than you needed,  :D but hopefully I answered your question(s). 

Thanks,
-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on January 03, 2013,
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Are those zip ties securing the strap to the D-Ring?  Or, some other method of attaching?

Yes, well...sort of.  The strapping is folded twice and the zip ties hold the strapping together which in turn holds the d-ring.  Here are a couple of pictures.

Thanks,
-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: bcstuff on January 03, 2013,
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I used 10' sticks of PVC to make them, but they are 15' long.  They make 10' diameter arcs.  One 10' piece looked too small to me so I used a coupler to make them 15' long.  The 15' arcs made the scale correct with the rest of the yard.  I just cut 3 sticks in half to make the extra 5' since my store did not carry anything longer than 10'.

The joint at the coupler did prove problematic however as the PVC collapsed due to the pretty sharp bend.  radius.  It then caused the arch to deform at the joint...it had a "point".  I added a short piece of 1/2" EMT inside the PVC at the coupler to strengthen the joint.  I also strapped a longer piece of conduit bent at the same radius to the outside at the joint, but I don't think it is really needed.  It was more just a belt and suspenders kind of thing not knowing how it would work for sure and not wanting my arches to spring apart in the middle of my show. 

Not to hijack, but I had similar problems with PVC joints and arches.
The fix was to use the grey non metallic EMT conduit. I stole the idea from here:
http://doityourselfchristmas.com/wiki/index.php?title=Light_Arch (http://doityourselfchristmas.com/wiki/index.php?title=Light_Arch)

I used 1" conduit instead and it has a 2.5" bell on the end. I also heated the non bell ends up and slid them into the bell to form them and make them easier to put together and take apart too. Mine are 8ch 4 section free standing arches.

For complete circles with a lot of tension I drop a screw into the bell after the end is slid into it for extra security. </hijack>
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Segull on January 04, 2013,
Keith,
Like many have stated, I just want to also say Very Nice. You did a great job sir!!!

Thanks for posting.

Joe
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: bhays on January 06, 2013,
Amazing.  Clean layout, super tight sequencing...
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: sittinguphigh on January 06, 2013,
Very cool.
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Jeff Messer on January 08, 2013,
Lonewolf,
Your tree has set me on fire. The tree is programmed perfect and my wife so go for it. Thanks for all the information you have provided and your tree video's are perfect. What are the spacing of the pixel on your tree?  Thanks again.

Jeff
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Steve Gase on January 08, 2013,
Keith,


You have done an EXCELLENT job all around.  Music, sequencing, layout, and construction. 
You've created a new standard.


Nice.
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Jeff Messer on January 08, 2013,
Keith,

If you had to do this tree again would you use the flat pixels on the string? Can you post the string that you used or location you got them from.

Thanks,
Jeff
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on January 08, 2013,
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Lonewolf,
Your tree has set me on fire. The tree is programmed perfect and my wife so go for it. Thanks for all the information you have provided and your tree video's are perfect. What are the spacing of the pixel on your tree?  Thanks again.

Jeff

Thanks!  And send you wife my apologies <yk..  ;D   Well the spacing was determined by the strings.  I could not go larger than 3-5/16" between nodes and have everything evenly spaced.  I wanted to do 3-1/2" but I had some strings with sections that were less than that so I had to mix and match to get everything to come out even to keep the tree looking right.  All the strings had at least 3-5/16" between nodes so that was what I used.  I was actually going to put up 2 trees again this year, but could not come up with enough strings that had the 3-5/16" spacing.  Some were close to 3-1/4" which may not sound like much, but by the time you reach the ground, the lights end too far up the string to look good in my opinion.  1/16" over 84 nodes is 5".  Hope that helps.

-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on January 08, 2013,
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Keith,

If you had to do this tree again would you use the flat pixels on the string? Can you post the string that you used or location you got them from.

Thanks,
Jeff

If by "flat pixels", you mean these: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/4m-waterproof-LED-digital-strip-by-tube-DC12V-input-without-controller-10pcs-TM1809IC-m-30pcs-5050/701799_425556741.html

I did consider them; however, if I remember, the cost was going to be about double what the nodes would be for the same height tree.  I use these for all my RGB stuff:  http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/128-node-LED-pixel-string-DC12V-input-new-model-IP68-TM1804IC/701799_495658226.html?_componentAcceptorEnabled_=false . 

While the horizontal resolution of the tree would have been about 3X what the nodes gave, I didn't feel that I needed that..especially for the extra cost involved.  The nodes to me had a more uniform look with the vertical resolution being what it was with the 1/2 tree.  I am one of the cheapest people I know so the nodes gave the best "bang for the buck" in my opinion for me and my layout.  That is also, however, why I did 1/2 a tree this year though.  I doubled the vertical resolution from last years whole tree for the same cost.  I am toying with adding a few more strings...maybe 4 more for a total of 20 or so, but that would mean that I would need to redo this year's sequences to use them again.  Not the end of the world, but I am ready to settle on a layout and stick with it.  This year's is close, but I may still want to bring back my 2nd megatree. 

Ironically enough, I actually have 3 songs picked out for 2013 already.  I wasn't for sure what songs I was doing this last year until around the end of October and didn't start sequencing until November 2nd or 3rd.  Actually, if I had a memory and Winter palace had not come out at the end of October, I'm not sure what I would of done.  I might still be trying to decide.   :o  The first time I listened to those songs, I was like....I gotta use them!!  I was so focused on getting elements built and strings built and burned in that I got behind...which may have been a blessing after all...but being able to re-use sequences would help me out in situations like that.  I don't like to make this a year around thing so that my wife doesn't disown me so I try and limit Christmas to the last 6 months or so of the year.

That was probably way more info than you needed, but hopefully I managed to answer your question.

Thanks,
-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Jeffl on January 08, 2013,
I think those strips are 4M or 120 LEDs so they stay below the 128 limit RJ imposed.  I don't think this will give you the height you need.  For that matter I don't think you could get enough pixles on a strip that could be controlled to hit 22' can you?
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Jeff Messer on January 08, 2013,
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Keith,

If you had to do this tree again would you use the flat pixels on the string? Can you post the string that you used or location you got them from.

Thanks,
Jeff

If by "flat pixels", you mean these: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/4m-waterproof-LED-digital-strip-by-tube-DC12V-input-without-controller-10pcs-TM1809IC-m-30pcs-5050/701799_425556741.html

I did consider them; however, if I remember, the cost was going to be about double what the nodes would be for the same height tree.  I use these for all my RGB stuff:  http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/128-node-LED-pixel-string-DC12V-input-new-model-IP68-TM1804IC/701799_495658226.html?_componentAcceptorEnabled_=false . 

While the horizontal resolution of the tree would have been about 3X what the nodes gave, I didn't feel that I needed that..especially for the extra cost involved.  The nodes to me had a more uniform look with the vertical resolution being what it was with the 1/2 tree.  I am one of the cheapest people I know so the nodes gave the best "bang for the buck" in my opinion for me and my layout.  That is also, however, why I did 1/2 a tree this year though.  I doubled the vertical resolution from last years whole tree for the same cost.  I am toying with adding a few more strings...maybe 4 more for a total of 20 or so, but that would mean that I would need to redo this year's sequences to use them again.  Not the end of the world, but I am ready to settle on a layout and stick with it.  This year's is close, but I may still want to bring back my 2nd megatree. 

Ironically enough, I actually have 3 songs picked out for 2013 already.  I wasn't for sure what songs I was doing this last year until around the end of October and didn't start sequencing until November 2nd or 3rd.  Actually, if I had a memory and Winter palace had not come out at the end of October, I'm not sure what I would of done.  I might still be trying to decide.   :o  The first time I listened to those songs, I was like....I gotta use them!!  I was so focused on getting elements built and strings built and burned in that I got behind...which may have been a blessing after all...but being able to re-use sequences would help me out in situations like that.  I don't like to make this a year around thing so that my wife doesn't disown me so I try and limit Christmas to the last 6 months or so of the year.

That was probably way more info than you needed, but hopefully I managed to answer your question.

Thanks,
-Keith
Keith,

When I was talking flat I was talking this type. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/RGB-full-LED-pixel-module-WS-2801-IC-DC5V-input-50pcs-a-string/521371851.html 

Thanks for all the information you have provided. I did send you a PM if you have time to chat.

Jeff
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on January 08, 2013,
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Keith,

If you had to do this tree again would you use the flat pixels on the string? Can you post the string that you used or location you got them from.

Thanks,
Jeff

If by "flat pixels", you mean these: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/4m-waterproof-LED-digital-strip-by-tube-DC12V-input-without-controller-10pcs-TM1809IC-m-30pcs-5050/701799_425556741.html

I did consider them; however, if I remember, the cost was going to be about double what the nodes would be for the same height tree.  I use these for all my RGB stuff:  http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/128-node-LED-pixel-string-DC12V-input-new-model-IP68-TM1804IC/701799_495658226.html?_componentAcceptorEnabled_=false . 

While the horizontal resolution of the tree would have been about 3X what the nodes gave, I didn't feel that I needed that..especially for the extra cost involved.  The nodes to me had a more uniform look with the vertical resolution being what it was with the 1/2 tree.  I am one of the cheapest people I know so the nodes gave the best "bang for the buck" in my opinion for me and my layout.  That is also, however, why I did 1/2 a tree this year though.  I doubled the vertical resolution from last years whole tree for the same cost.  I am toying with adding a few more strings...maybe 4 more for a total of 20 or so, but that would mean that I would need to redo this year's sequences to use them again.  Not the end of the world, but I am ready to settle on a layout and stick with it.  This year's is close, but I may still want to bring back my 2nd megatree. 

Ironically enough, I actually have 3 songs picked out for 2013 already.  I wasn't for sure what songs I was doing this last year until around the end of October and didn't start sequencing until November 2nd or 3rd.  Actually, if I had a memory and Winter palace had not come out at the end of October, I'm not sure what I would of done.  I might still be trying to decide.   :o  The first time I listened to those songs, I was like....I gotta use them!!  I was so focused on getting elements built and strings built and burned in that I got behind...which may have been a blessing after all...but being able to re-use sequences would help me out in situations like that.  I don't like to make this a year around thing so that my wife doesn't disown me so I try and limit Christmas to the last 6 months or so of the year.

That was probably way more info than you needed, but hopefully I managed to answer your question.

Thanks,
-Keith
Keith,

When I was talking flat I was talking this type. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/RGB-full-LED-pixel-module-WS-2801-IC-DC5V-input-50pcs-a-string/521371851.html 

Thanks for all the information you have provided. I did send you a PM if you have time to chat.

Jeff

As of now, nodes that meet our requirements have not been available in that form factor.  I hear that something similar may be in the works, but nothing up to this point.  All approved/official smart string types are listed in the wiki.  Anything except those may or may not work and are not recommended for use with Lynx equipment.

Thanks,
-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on January 08, 2013,
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I think those strips are 4M or 120 LEDs so they stay below the 128 limit RJ imposed.  I don't think this will give you the height you need.  For that matter I don't think you could get enough pixles on a strip that could be controlled to hit 22' can you?

That is the other thing I should have mentioned, it would have been a much more complicated install to use those and get the height I need.  Or...I would have had to make a shorter tree and no one realy wants to do that now do they???   ;D <wd..
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Jeff Messer on January 08, 2013,
I did see on Ray's site they have a ws2811 flat like that. Thanks for your time on this discussion.

Jeff
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: Jeffl on January 08, 2013,
Nothing like creating a 360 degree version of this and using 16K channels to do it.   How many channels of pixelnet can you have? :)
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: craig d on January 11, 2013,
Very nice setup. Great sequencing. What controlers are you using to drive all those candycanes?  Thanks ,Craig
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on January 11, 2013,
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Very nice setup. Great sequencing. What controlers are you using to drive all those candycanes?  Thanks ,Craig

They are Lynx express.  They would have looked a little better, but I realized after I had everything running that I accidentally switched controllers for the candy canes and mini trees from last year.  I had programmed a light curve into the controllers last year for the mini trees since the LED's used on them didn't dim very well.  So since I switched them this year, the curve looked bad on the candy canes (that didn't need a dimming curve) and there was no curve on the mini trees so they looked bad as well.  As long as everything is full on, it is OK, but really sticks out during fades.  Thought about reprogramming the expresses with the correct curves, but just couldn't find the gumption to get out and do it.  Will try and remember this for next year. <fp.

Thanks,
-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: craig d on January 11, 2013,
I wish my stuff looked that bad. Most people would never notice. I didn't untill you said something. I was afraid you would tell me $80 controller for $25 worth of lights. Sure looks good. I was asking because I bought out the red canes day after Christmas at the local Wallyworld. 
Thanks,
Craig
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: lonewolf41 on January 11, 2013,
I'm not sure where the red ones came from.  Most I got from a garage sale and they are 4 canes to a string.  That's why they are grouped the way they are.   The green ones all came from WalMart so looks like you are right on track. :D

-Keith
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: smeighan on January 11, 2013,
lonewolf41
" I am toying with adding a few more strings...maybe 4 more for a total of 20 or so, but that would mean that I would need to redo this year's sequences to use them again. "

20 is what i had for my half megatree, they were flex strips. What was pretty amazing is that from the back of three tree, i could still clearly see the patterns even though the strips were attached to 1/2" metal emt and facing away from me. The clear tubing they are in reflects the light. U end up with more than 180 degrees of vieweing angle, maybe 270-300 degrees.

Also, for your nutcracker effects, just change target and it auto sizes your effects.
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: keitha43 on January 11, 2013,
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lonewolf41

20 is what i had for my half megatree, they were flex strips. What was pretty amazing is that from the back of three tree, i could still clearly see the patterns even though the strips were attached to 1/2" metal emt and facing away from me. The clear tubing they are in reflects the light. U end up with more than 180 degrees of vieweing angle, maybe 270-300 degrees.

Also, for your nutcracker effects, just change target and it auto sizes your effects.

Need pics and videos so we can see for ourselves!
Title: Re: This year's show videos
Post by: smeighan on January 12, 2013,
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lonewolf41

20 is what i had for my half megatree, they were flex strips. What was pretty amazing is that from the back of three tree, i could still clearly see the patterns even though the strips were attached to 1/2" metal emt and facing away from me. The clear tubing they are in reflects the light. U end up with more than 180 degrees of vieweing angle, maybe 270-300 degrees.

Also, for your nutcracker effects, just change target and it auto sizes your effects.

I took videos last night. I take my show down tommorow

I hoot to get a YouTube video of them

Need pics and videos so we can see for ourselves!