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Offline sielbear

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Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« on: October 31, 2011, »
I know I've seen this posted, but I could not find it for the life of me. 

I have over 4096 channels of SSC this year.  I'll be using more than one dongle.  Dongle 1 will run with channels 1 - 4096.  What are my channels for Dongle 2?  1 - 4096 or 4097 - 8192?

I'll not be using a combiner as my hubs are going in two completely different directions. 

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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2011, »
I'm sure that someone will correct me if I am wrong...


3 options: (or hybrids of each)

(A)  2 EtherDongles and 8 16-port active hubs.

   -- this is treated as 2 devices in Vixen/LSP, and each has its own 1-4096 addressing.  each etherdongle has a separate IP address and therefore is independent of the other etherdongle. 

(B) 8 USB dongles and 2 combiners, and 8 16-port active hubs.

  -- this is treated as 8 devices, but each group of 4 dongles can be combined into a single cable run to take you to the first active hub.  Each usb dongle would have addressing of 1-1024.

(C) 8 USB dongles and 8 16-port active hubs.

  -- this is treated as 8 devices, each usb dongle would have addressing of 1-1024.


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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2011, »
Both,
The hardware will always see it as 1 – 4096  and software will see it as the channels you have defined on that port.

Dongle 1   hardware sees it as 1 – 4096  and software sees it as 1 – 4096
Dongle 2   hradware sees it as 1 – 4096  and software sees it as 4097 - 8192

so for dongle 1 software channel      1 will control channel 1 on the cat5 connected to dongle 1
so for dongle 2 software channel 4097 will control channel 1 on the cat5 connected to dongle 2





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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2011, »
Steve,

I think your numbers are a bit off.

One EtherDongle supports 4 universes of PixelNet for a total 16384 channels.

One Lynx USB Dongle flashed with PixelNet firmware can handle 4096 channels (one universe of PixelNet).

So unless I'm missing something I don't see why more than one EtherDongle or more than two USB Dongles would be needed for hardware for up to 8192.

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I'm sure that someone will correct me if I am wrong...


3 options: (or hybrids of each)

(A)  2 EtherDongles and 8 16-port active hubs.

   -- this is treated as 2 devices in Vixen/LSP, and each has its own 1-4096 addressing.  each etherdongle has a separate IP address and therefore is independent of the other etherdongle. 

(B) 8 USB dongles and 2 combiners, and 8 16-port active hubs.

  -- this is treated as 8 devices, but each group of 4 dongles can be combined into a single cable run to take you to the first active hub.  Each usb dongle would have addressing of 1-1024.

(C) 8 USB dongles and 8 16-port active hubs.

  -- this is treated as 8 devices, each usb dongle would have addressing of 1-1024.


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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2011, »
RJ has already typed all of this info out

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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2011, »
You are right.  Sorry for the confusion!
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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, »
I have 2 hubs and 2 Dongles, when I start programming the SSCs for the second hub, What do I enter into the Smart String Utility for the controllers on the second hub. Do I tell them they start at 4097 for the first one? Or does the hub just pull out that info and converts it back at starting #1?
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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, »
I set my SSC's to use 1 -4096 for each of my 4 hubs.
So on mine the SSC for channel 4097 is programmed with channel 1 and pluged into hub 2.

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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, »
Jeff, what software are you using?

In RJs notes he says the following:

If you need more channels than this you add a dongle and a hub. You get the next 4096 channels This
dongle plugin in the software gets setup with the channels 4097 - 8192 in the software.
Now it has 4096 channels they are numbered ch # 4097 - 8192 in the software.
It is really that simple. I hope this helps someone.  RJ


In LSP 2.0, I would think you would need to add two controllers, one for each Pixelnet dongle you are adding since each would have its own com port.  I am using the Etherdongle and have been setting lights connected to the second controller starting at 4097.

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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, »
Your quote from RJ is correct. He is talking about how you use it in the software.
I was referring to the Hardware setup. There I set the SSC for channel 4097 to channel 1. In the software I use the real address 4097.
So in the software turning on channel 4097 will turn on hardware channel 1 on hub #2.

I am using the Etherdongle in Vixen, it is set to channels 1 - 16384.


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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2011, »
Yes, I am using LSP also, and I think that has answered my question. Now just need to get everything programmed. Plus finish my other Dongle. Doesn't help that I work 72 hours this week, then next week I am off, but leaving on a 4 day trip. Then work again the next week. Christmas will be here before I know it.
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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2011, »
In LSP how are you adding both dongles?  Are you adding two controllers and setting the output config for each? 

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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2011, »
I haven't built the second dongle yet, I am way behind where I want to be.
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Re: Addressing the SSC with multiple dongles
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2011, »
I was finally able to test this tonight and on the second hub the lights start back at 1 and not 4097.