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Hardware => Lynx USB DMX Dongle => Topic started by: lortiz on January 30, 2010,

Title: New part for dongle
Post by: lortiz on January 30, 2010,

Since there is going to be a lot of dongle parts ordering, please be aware that the NMR100C (Mouser 580-NMR100C) part is not available at this moment in Mouser. Doing a small research it looks like manufacturer Murata have now an 'improved' version of this part MER1S0505SC (Mouser 580-MER1S0505SC). This part looks like direct replacement to their NMR100C component.

RJ should take a look at this and let us know for sure if it OK to buy this new part instead.

Leo

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: RJ on January 30, 2010,

It appears that you are correct. It appears to be a drop in replacement but one that is both in stock and cheaper!

Good find!

Rick when you see this could you change the Boms to reflect the new part that is avaliable. Thanks!

RJ

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: rrowan on January 30, 2010,

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It appears that you are correct. It appears to be a drop in replacement but one that is both in stock and cheaper!

Good find!

Rick when you see this could you change the Boms to reflect the new part that is avaliable. Thanks!

RJ

Ok, but you will have to change the mouser direct link

Rick R.

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: lineman on January 30, 2010,

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Since there is going to be a lot of dongle parts ordering, please be aware that the NMR100C (Mouser 580-NMR100C) part is not available at this moment in Mouser. Doing a small research it looks like manufacturer Murata have now an 'improved' version of this part MER1S0505SC (Mouser 580-MER1S0505SC). This part looks like direct replacement to their NMR100C component.

RJ should take a look at this and let us know for sure if it OK to buy this new part instead.

Leo

Do you think I need to call mouser already ordered parts before this came about or do you think they will make the adjustment on their own

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: KeithTarpley on January 30, 2010,

Greetings,,,

Myself, I would call them.  They wouldn't want to make a customer angry by substituting a part without prior approval, even one on a week or two backorder.  The only way to be sure is to contact them.

Keith

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: RJ on January 31, 2010,

Wiki BOM link to mouser has been updated.

RJ

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: trekster on January 31, 2010,

I just built a dongle a couple of weeks ago.  I just looked at the Mouser BOM and it has parts listed that I did not have.  I also looked again at the manual and I can not find the first five (5) parts.  Is the new dongle for the new COOP different?  330 ohm resistors and a couple of led's?

Ron

Maybe I'm seeing things

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: KeithTarpley on January 31, 2010,

Greetings,,,

We're in the middle of updating info.  The dongle pcb in the current coop is going to have a few additional parts, 2 leds, 2 resistors, a 2 pin header and jumper for it.  The manual is going to be updated for the new additions.  The manual is still good for any of the boards currently out there.

Keith

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: RJ on January 31, 2010,

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I just built a dongle a couple of weeks ago.  I just looked at the Mouser BOM and it has parts listed that I did not have.  I also looked again at the manual and I can not find the first five (5) parts.  Is the new dongle for the new COOP different?  330 ohm resistors and a couple of led's?

Ron

Maybe I'm seeing things

Your not!

We try to never let the grass grow under our feet here at DLA. We are always looking for ways to improve things with new devices and upgrades to current ones.

The dongle is getting a power and Data LED added for diagnoses and a jumper to allow it to be put in a test mode if you having issues and wnat to isolate the problem to the dongle you built are configuration in the software. They cost almost nothing to add and if you don't want them you leave them off with out any issues.

When in test mode the dongle will turn every other channel on and the rest off no matter what the software is telling it to do. this is so you can tell that the hardware is working.

The test mode was requested by Keith Tarpley and the Leds have been asked for by a number of people.

RJ

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: trekster on January 31, 2010,

Sounds like a good idea to me.  The power and data light is something I was even thinking about after building mine a couple of weeks ago and having major problems.  It was dead.  But its fixed and working now. (with my little jumper from the bottom of the usb module to pin 10 on top)

You guys are the best.

Thank You

Ron

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: bisquit476 on February 01, 2010,

I'm glad I read this thread because there is no mention in the Dongle co-op of the new added features. As I already have 2 of the Dongle PCB's, I wasn't going to order any this go around, but with the new added features it looks like I'm just going to have to order more stuff. As always, Thank you RJ for helping me spend my money ;D ;D

Seriously though, myself and I'm sure others are actually glad you keep trying to make things better.

One question, I have cases for the old Dongle, will they work on the new board?

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 01, 2010,

Greetings,,,

The cases will work.  The physical additions are just the leds, resistors, and jumper/pins.  All are small.

Keith

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: vairmoose on February 01, 2010,

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I'm glad I read this thread because there is no mention in the Dongle co-op of the new added features. As I already have 2 of the Dongle PCB's, I wasn't going to order any this go around, but with the new added features it looks like I'm just going to have to order more stuff. As always, Thank you RJ for helping me spend my money ;D ;D

Seriously though, myself and I'm sure others are actually glad you keep trying to make things better.

One question, I have cases for the old Dongle, will they work on the new board?

The intent is for the LEDs to be visible outside of the box.  You will want to drill two small holes in the case once you figure out where it is best to have the LEDs poking through.   

Larry

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: RJ on February 01, 2010,

Moose is correct. There is a led added on each side of the jacks. One is to the left of the USB and one to the right of the RJ45. with the machined cases you drill two small holes and the leds poke into them so you cansee them outside the case.

RJ

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: rogerwh on February 01, 2010,

So, Is the current BOM for the dongle the parts I should order for the new PCB'ain the coop?.

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: RJ on February 01, 2010,

I updated the BOM so if you order from it at this time it has all parts for the new dongle. The added parts are three resistors, two leds (one red, one green), a 2 pin header and shunt tin.

Every parts is something we use in other Lynx equipment.

I attached a pic of the ver 2 layout so you can see the change.

RJ

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: lortiz on February 01, 2010,

Is there any space left for an ICSP header?

Leo

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: knguyen916 on February 01, 2010,

This would actually be nice. Looking at the pcb, it would suck pulling the pic out for programming. I know there are tools out there, just saying.
The pic looks really close to the RJ45 jack.

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Is there any space left for an ICSP header?

Leo

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: lortiz on February 01, 2010,

That is why I'm asking.

I recently had to pull my PIC from the dongle to reprogram it and it was not easy at all. Almost broke some of the pins since one side is too close to the RJ45 jack.

Leo

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: RJ on February 01, 2010,

Sorry there won't be a ICSP header.
 
RJ

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: voyageurs60 on February 01, 2010,

Yes I am confused... 1st week of January purchased from RJ a Dongle PCB, now I see reference to NEW DMX Dongle... have reserved 4 boards from the current Dongle Coop - is my 1st week Jan the same board? Ordered the BOM, see something about some resistor changes and 1 red, 1 green LED in the thread... no problem with progress, just I am confused... want all to be the latest, greatest build... voyageurs60 (Dan)

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 01, 2010,

Greetings,,,

None of the newer Dongle pcbs have been sent out yet.  The current coop is the first batch of the newer pcbs.  And is the first batch with the additional parts option.

Keith

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: Caliente Christmas on February 01, 2010,

Maybe a suggestion on the wiki, can a link be set up for the dongles that are version 1 and a link for the new board version 2.

I know that there are only five different really inexpensive part in the new BOM.  However, the changes might be confusing with someone that has a version one board.  If I did not follow the forum, and I did not know about the extra parts for the new dongle board and I ordered part for a version 1 board and had part left over part after I was done assembling.  Ii will be frantic.

Yuri V.

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: rrowan on February 01, 2010,

Hi Folks,

The Dongle Manual is still for Ver 1. The only changes in there is some updated parts (ie: replace discontinue part numbers).
The Wiki Bom now has two sections a Ver 2 and Ver 1
The Mouser Bom has 5 extra parts in it to cover Ver 2 pcbs which RJ has already explained

Hope that helps some

Rick R.

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: jjrmace43 on February 26, 2010,

RJ,

Even though the V2 board hasn't been released yet, is it possible to get a shot of the backside of the V2 board along with the front shot you posted previously? I don't see any problem adding the extra parts to the V1 board.

Thanks,

Jerry

Title: Dongle part back order
Post by: wheelyneil on March 03, 2010,

Hello All
If I missed the answer somewhere to this question please excuse me as I did not find it.

I went  to mouser to order the Dongle part kit and the  there is a part Back orderd.

Mouser #:  512-FQP27P06   
Mfr. #:  FQP27P06 
Manufacturer:  Fairchild Semiconductor 
Desc.:  MOSFETs 60V P-Channel QFET 

Is there a substitute for this that is recomended?

Thanks All
Neil

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: KeithTarpley on March 03, 2010,

Greetings,,,

Info here:

http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=2027.msg20328#msg20328

Keith

Title: Re: New part for dongle
Post by: wheelyneil on March 03, 2010,

Thanks Keith for the info!

I thought I had seen it but sometimes it's hard to remember how to get back to where you were yesterday when you need it today and it was okay a week ago but now it's not and you have to find new and oh yes what was I looking for?

Really Thanks, I got my order in and be building it soon ;D
Take Care :P ;)

Neil