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Hardware => Lynx Freestyle => Topic started by: KeithTarpley on February 15, 2010,

Title: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 15, 2010,

Greetings,,,

FYI for anyone looking for FS, SSR4, or SSR4 DMX option parts, or pcbs.  Probably in a week or so, after getting everything double checked, a new Coop will be started.  So count you channels and see what you'd like to order.

Keith

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: ponddude on February 15, 2010,

Exactly what I have been waiting for!!

Thanks Keith!

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: onesmoothhead on February 15, 2010,

I can hardly wait.

Kevin

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: Rainlover on February 15, 2010,

I a a total newbie and I am trying to learn but sometimes I don't have all the necessary tools. .
If I have LEs, would I need any of these items?
I have read the info on the wiki, but I don't quite understand what I would use these for.

Thanks,
John

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 15, 2010,

Greetings,,,

These are earlier designed units, and completely separate from the LE.  These are useful in certain situations where you want to put different channel numbers in physically different places.  The LEs are set up for 16 channels nearer each other.  The SSR4s, controlled by FreeStyle or by the optional DMX addon are set up for 4 channels near each other.

The FS isn't as advanced as the LE, but still is wanted by some people for what they do, hence the Coop.  Enjoy the LEs if you've got them.  I have both.

Keith

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: Rainlover on February 15, 2010,

Thanks Keith.
One of these days it will all come together and the dizziness will go away.

John

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 15, 2010,

Greetings,,,

RJ has ways to keep you dizzy.   ;D

Keith

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: thshadow on February 15, 2010,

Super duper cool... been looking for one... fantastic....

- Mike

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: Exitfourxmas on February 16, 2010,

Great!!!  I've been waiting for this.

Thanks,
Jerry

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: coachers on February 16, 2010,

  I need some schooling on the SSR4 options..

  If I get a SSR4 with out the DMX option, what do I lose? Isn't all Lynx DMX?

 Also, if I get an SSR4 with out DMX option, can I still add Wireless to it at a later date?

Thanks,
Al

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: onesmoothhead on February 16, 2010,

I am fairly new also.  I have read the wiki so much I think I can add a little and then these pros can add more.  You will need the FS with the SSR if the SSR does not have DMX option.  The SSR with the DMX option would not require the FS and can be wireless.  I do not think the SSR without the DMX could be wireless, because it would need the DMX to work. Guys let me know if I am almost right or way off?   Again, my post is really a look for confirmation of my thinking. Don't take it as fact unless, of course I am right.  lol

Thanks,

Kevin (AKA onesmoothhead)

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: aERonAUtical96 on February 16, 2010,

As I typed this... Kevin (aka onesmoothhead) responded... and Kevin, you are correct and it's fact :)



A SSR4 w/out DMX would require a Freestyle.  The FS contains the circuit logic to receive DMX signal and trigger the triacs on the SSR4 (up to 32 SSR4 -128 channels).  Basically the SSR4 w/out DMX wouldn't know how to handle the DMX signal.  The DMX goes into the FS and the FS sends voltage signals to the SSR triacs to trigger on/off and anywhere in between.

A SS4 w/ DMX takes that circuit logic and moves it onto the SSR4 to create a standalone controller.  It would be a self contained box that can receive DMX and trigger the triacs.

If you aren't running SSR4 w/ DMX, then the wireless module would be added to the FS (again the SSR wouldn't know what to do w/ the DMX signal).  SSR w/ DMX, the wireless module can be added at anytime.

So to summarize... SSR w/o DMX requires a Freestyle... SSR w/ DMX is self contained.

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: onesmoothhead on February 16, 2010,

GREAT!! Don't tell my wife. She is not used to me being right. Thank for the confirmation.


Thanks,
Kevin

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 16, 2010,

Greetings,,,

Everybody keep giving good answers.  It'll make it look like the coop is being run better.    ;D

Keith

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: Caliente Christmas on February 16, 2010,

Here is a good visual drawing of Freestyle and SSR4 set up.


http://diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Lights1.png

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: Dennis Cherry on February 16, 2010,

Just looking at the drawings, getting better understanding the DMX universe for Lynx.

Couple of questions.

1. You do not show any SSR4-DMX units in the drawings.
2. No mention which controllers should have the termination activate.
3. For some of us who have LOR controller, could a few samples be shown of LOR controllers added to the Lynx universe?

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: Caliente Christmas on February 16, 2010,

The SSR4-DMX units are stand alone.  You do not need anything but a dongle connected to them.  they also can be daisy chained off the Freestyle or another lynx devices.
 
If you look at the bottom of the picture you will see a Lynx 16 ch.  and SSR4 and another Lynx daisy chained.

The only thing you would need to do to the SSR4-DMX is provide the first channel (1-512) 

some where at the bottom of the page show how to set up the DMX channel prgramming,  also RJ has new app out so you can do the programmnig from your PC.  all you will need is the Dongle

Lynx Utility
http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=2676.0

SSR4 programming  W/ Vixen
http://diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual_SSR4

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: tbone321 on February 16, 2010,

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Just looking at the drawings, getting better understanding the DMX universe for Lynx.

Couple of questions.

1. You do not show any SSR4-DMX units in the drawings.
2. No mention which controllers should have the termination activate.
3. For some of us who have LOR controller, could a few samples be shown of LOR controllers added to the Lynx universe?

The SSR4-DMX units connect in like any other DMX device such as the Freestyle or an Express.  Just be sure that the jumpers are set for DMX operation and the start channel is set.  The terminator is used to stop signal reflections along the string and belong on the end of a DMX string.  This means that they should be active on any device that does not have another device plugged into the DMX out 1 jack.   This is important for the Express and the splitter because they have more than one output and only DMX out1 is part of the continuing string.  Outputs above 1 are regenerated from the 485 chip and are actually the beginning of a new string so if you have an express with another device plugged into DMX out 2 and nothing plugged into DMX out 1 then that Express is the end of one string as well as the beginning of another so its terminator should be set on.  If they have something plugged into DMX out1 then they are not at the end of the string and the terminator should not be enabled on that device.  Remember that it is really a DMX universe, not a lynx universe so you have to be sure that your LOR controllers are configured to work with DMX and have the correct start channel set.  Then all you need are some cable adapters to wire them in and that can be found on the WIKI

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: tmtfield on February 18, 2010,

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Thanks Keith.
One of these days it will all come together and the dizziness will go away.

John

Hey John,

When you get the dizziness to go away please share the secret. ;)
I am a newbie as well. All I am sure of is that I am getting less and less sleep every night, and my basement is filling up with some really bizarre electronic pieces.  :D

Keith;

Thanks, I will be ready for an order if a coop opens

Tim

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: thshadow on February 18, 2010,

Hey all.. I am a relative newbie... just finished building the dongle and actually had gotten an SSR PCB to build while waiting on the Coop and the LE Coop to be sorted (poor RJ and JJ)... anyway with that said I can say the build for the SSR is simpler than the Dongle... the SSR with DMX added is a bit more time consuming... so I wouldn't recommend turning lots of SSR into DMX but rather SSRs controlled via Freestyles just because it will save you lots of time... (well I think) haven't built the Freestyle yet... waiting for this coop to build some... but if you want a first easy build the SSR with DMX seems really simple... not sure about how it compares to the LE or Freestyle in terms of the build... looking to use these in pairs for arches... as seems arches are 8 channels on average...

- Mike

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: RJ on February 18, 2010,

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so I wouldn't recommend turning lots of SSR into DMX but rather SSRs controlled via Freestyles just because it will save you lots of time... (well I think) haven't built the Freestyle yet... - Mike

  :o :o :o ;D ;D

Build the 128 channel Freestyle and get back to me on this! LOL

Like over 1000 solder joints to populate the Fs!

RJ

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: ponddude on February 18, 2010,

The Freestyle soldering doesn't look bad, and than you put in all 34 modular jacks and you realize how screwed you are... :P

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: Caliente Christmas on February 18, 2010,

I build the Dongle as a trial to see if i can do solder and than I tackled the express V4.
I used Rj Video instructions and in no time I was complete. The Video was confidence builder when i was putting the express together.

I suggest to just take your time.  

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: thshadow on February 18, 2010,

Quote

  :o :o :o ;D ;D

Build the 128 channel Freestyle and get back to me on this! LOL

Like over 1000 solder joints to populate the Fs!



RJ

Well I didn't say it was painless... I just know the SSR was a super fast build... the add DMX part after that got a bit slower... however if I do it again I would change the order I solder stuff a lot ;) the wiki gets the SSR build in no time... however when you hit the and now to add the DMX part it is like duh... should have read a bit further and added some of those parts during the first phase of soldering... like the other two jumper terminals ;) 

Seriously though can you ever solder enough rj45 jacks... I think not...

RJ now you are worrying me  :o as to what I embarked on with trying a FS.

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: Aussiephil on February 19, 2010,

For all the newbies.....

Please don't be scared by the big bad RJ and the 1000 solder joints...

It's more time consuming and repetative than it is actually hard.

Now if you want hard (and repetative) come and share the 26,000 solder joints to make the RGB strings for my megatree :)

As pointed out each of the controllers has it's place, I use a freestyle with SSR's for all my 240v rope light.

Cheers
Phil

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 19, 2010,

Greetings,,,

Hey, RJ!!!  Stop sabotaging my Coop!   ;D  ;D  ;D

I thought we figured closer to 800+ solder joints, anyway.  Have to count again.

Don't let RJ mess with your minds.  He's breathing all those exhaust fumes from his Transformer car.

I've built several dozen FreeStyles.  After the first 10 or so, you don't even worry about it.  Just pop in another part and solder until well done.   :D

The Express gets the glory.  But the FreeStyle is what built this city.  That and Rock and Roll, or at least Jingle Bell Rock.

Keith

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: Aussiephil on February 19, 2010,

Keith

I had to grab a board and count
RJ45 - 34x8 = 272
HCT273 - 16x20 = 320
hct4514 - 1x24 = 24
PIC - 1x28 = 28
Other = 58

Total = 702


I got curious then, the 48ch Tiger boards have around 730 (i lost count) solder joints!
Phil

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 19, 2010,

Greetings,,,

Yep, been a while since I've worried about such.   ;D

Also, whether you count tinning leads on the only single one ac cord coming in to the FS.  Not the incredibly huge number of 18 for the Express.   ;D

Keith

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: RJ on February 19, 2010,

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Greetings,,,

Hey, RJ!!!  Stop sabotaging my Coop!   ;D  ;D  ;D
Keith

Sorry, that was not the intent!

I just thought it was funny he said it is less work to build some SSR's with DMX than a Freestyle. It is not hard at all. As said it is just repeatitive.  It is nothing compared to building a LedTriks! I had it out for people back then I guess. LOL

RJ

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 19, 2010,

Greetings,,,

Is this a bad time  to say that LedTriks II will require placing individual phosphor dots on the screen?

Keith

 ;D

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: rrowan on February 19, 2010,

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Greetings,,,

Is this a bad time  to say that LedTriks II will require placing individual phosphor dots on the screen?

Keith

 ;D

Rumor has it that ver III will have true 3D in High Def. The image will be able to come off of the display and reach out to you.


Cheers

Rick R.

P.S. Just Kidding :D

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: RJ on February 19, 2010,

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Rumor has it that ver III will have true 3D in High Def. The image will be able to come off of the display and reach out to you.


Cheers

Rick R.

P.S. Just Kidding :D

Yes I heard that also! So Rick, When will you have that ready?  ???

RJ

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: rrowan on February 19, 2010,

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Rumor has it that ver III will have true 3D in High Def. The image will be able to come off of the display and reach out to you.


Cheers

Rick R.

P.S. Just Kidding :D

Yes I heard that also! So Rick, When will you have that ready?  ???

RJ

I'll start Alpha testing in a week or two

Rick R.

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 19, 2010,

Greetings,,,

This thread was begun to releave people looking for parts of all the unneeded stress.  We obviously need more stress relief.

 ;D  ;D  ;D

Keith

Finishing up the numbers...

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: bisquit476 on February 19, 2010,

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  We obviously need more stress relief.

Keith

Like maybe some solder smoke from a few V5 Express kit builds? I'm all for that  ;D

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: jap813 on February 19, 2010,

RJ has seen way too many parts in the past few weeks with the Express coop and the dongle pcb and such maybe he needs a vacation or something

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: Aussiephil on February 19, 2010,

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Rumor has it that ver III will have true 3D in High Def. The image will be able to come off of the display and reach out to you.

Rick, you are way behind the times with the rumour mill, I heard the version IV would not only be a 3D high definition hollographic projection but would be fully interactive with the audience............... and ............... come with the option to build your display for you.................

Phil

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 19, 2010,

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Rumor has it that ver III will have true 3D in High Def. The image will be able to come off of the display and reach out to you.

Rick, you are way behind the times with the rumour mill, I heard the version IV would not only be a 3D high definition hollographic projection but would be fully interactive with the audience............... and ............... come with the option to build your display for you.................

Phil

Greetings,,,

It only builds your display if you do Wizards In Winter...

Keith

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: rrowan on February 19, 2010,

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Rumor has it that ver III will have true 3D in High Def. The image will be able to come off of the display and reach out to you.

Rick, you are way behind the times with the rumour mill, I heard the version IV would not only be a 3D high definition hollographic projection but would be fully interactive with the audience............... and ............... come with the option to build your display for you.................

Phil

Phil Phil Phil,

v IV was top secret but since the cat is out of the bag you forgot the really cool part

Automatic candy cane dispenser but only to good behaving people with a settable age scanner. Like only kids under 12.

Cheers

Rick R.

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 21, 2010,

Greetings,,,

Beware the Ides of March!

http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=2727.0

Keith

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 23, 2010,

Greetings,,,

KIT 6!!!

Everybody wants something more.  I give and I give.  Okay,,,

Kit 6:  Stealth_parts AND Stealth_pcb.  May only be seen by those who are truly light worthy.  So, I'm sure you all will see it... won't you?

Keith

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: rrowan on February 23, 2010,

I am holding out for Kit 7

Invisible parts form a parallel universe

 <md..   <la..


Rick R.

btw: If I get kit 5 and kit 4 will I have a fully functional 4 channel controller? :D

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: Aussiephil on February 23, 2010,

But i really really want to be light worthy..........

Can i reveal yet the full telepathic projection system, no actual light hardware required, can be used to provide light shows direct to neigbours whilst they are still inside.

 <md..

Phil

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 24, 2010,

Greetings,,,

Seems like people have found the newer smilees....

 <pop..

Keith

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: egenoup on February 24, 2010,

Yep found them...    <res.

Title: Re: New Coop coming up...
Post by: coachers on February 24, 2010,

  <res.
        Funny.... I thought the smiley sign said, "Repent"



and I thought to myself  <wd..