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Title: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: sims101 on December 30, 2009,
I looking for a place to buy the power pigtails like the one light o Rama sales there has to be a cheaper place?????
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: solidmodeler on December 30, 2009,
We use to get them at  http://www.iofast.com/product_info.php/cPath/49_823/products_id/3919
 (http://www.iofast.com/product_info.php/cPath/49_823/products_id/3919) but i just checked and they don't have any more.

Michael
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: sims101 on December 31, 2009,
Thanks I just picked up 90 from them
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: PJNMCT on January 01, 2010,
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These are full cords sets not pigtails but I usually just cut off the end I don't need. 

Alan T

For what it's worth, I happened to make my pigtails this year by making the decision to cut my 6' extension cords in half instead of just cutting off the end I didn't need. I stored/pack ratted the other ends which came in very handy late in the season when I decided to modify my snowflake strings to control each individual string instead of using the off-the-shelf controller. Wow what a difference that made. I probably saved about $50 bucks on that little moment of decision.

I know there's a million ways of doing it but it's just a thought  :)

-Paul
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: castortiu on January 01, 2010,
I buy 6ft extension cords from home depot, $0.94 each.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xh8/R-100672781/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

I think is a good deal since I split them in two and I have the power cord for my custom made trees, and I have the other end that supports 3-outlet connected to the LE.

Gus.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: magic8192 on January 02, 2010,
I bought these and I like them.  They are precut and eady to be tinned and installed.

http://www.americord.com/roj-to-1-15p-prod-646.html

You can call them and get a bulk quote.  Last year they were .99  each shipped for 150 of them.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: basis21b on January 03, 2010,
You could cut the plugs off the power extension cords here:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10228

They have 1, 2 and 3 foot lengths for  $.72, $.90 and $1.08 respectively and offer volume discounts.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: bisquit476 on January 05, 2010,
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You could cut the plugs off the power extension cords here:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10228

They have 1, 2 and 3 foot lengths for  $.72, $.90 and $1.08 respectively and offer volume discounts.

Just make sure you scroll toward the bottom of the page, the cords at the top are for connecting to the back of a computer.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: Caliente Christmas on January 06, 2010,
Holy smokes,  there office is 10 miles from my house sweet!!!  no shipping cost.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: bisquit476 on January 11, 2010,
Ok, just got 32 16/3 power cords from monoprice.com. They are pretty nice looking cords, although the exterior sheathing is a little thin (you can see/feel the twist of the wires inside it), but for the price point, they look great. IMHO. With shipping they were just over a buck a piece, in a 3ft length.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: salongaopm on January 13, 2010,
Does it matter if they are for Indoor Use Only?

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I buy 6ft extension cords from home depot, $0.94 each.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xh8/R-100672781/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

I think is a good deal since I split them in two and I have the power cord for my custom made trees, and I have the other end that supports 3-outlet connected to the LE.

Gus.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: BrianO on January 13, 2010,
Nah, I dont think so.  That is exactly what I used, and rained crazy a couple of days with no problem.  What I ended up doing, is wrapping with electrical tape to try and waterproof a little bit.  I live in central ca, so I am not sure what it would do to you snow guys.  Coldest it got so far this year is 28....not that I am gloating....should have seen people staring at me when I was walking through HD with to big cases of cheapy cords....quizzical looks all around.  I just cut them in half.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: salongaopm on January 14, 2010,
Thanks!
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: comporder1 on January 15, 2010,
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We use to get them at  http://www.iofast.com/product_info.php/cPath/49_823/products_id/3919
 (http://www.iofast.com/product_info.php/cPath/49_823/products_id/3919) but i just checked and they don't have any more.

Michael

Same here..... I bought 128 of them summer of 08'. They were the best deal anywhere. I looked back at my old emails and found an old correspondence with a salesman/purchaser at iofast. I sent him an email asking about the product, and if he would name his supplier. He resonded and said that the company he used to buy them at went out of buisness. He then asked if there was still a strong demand for them and if there was that he would try to find another source for them. I responded and assured him that there was indeed a STRONG demand for them and to see what he could do for us. Sound like we may need to work up another COOP!! :)

What do you guys think? Anyone else need cords? With 514 LE in the COOP now thats 8192 output channels that need cords!!

Carey
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: lineman on January 15, 2010,
Coop on cords sounds good to me
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: paul58 on January 15, 2010,
I believe that qualifies as strong demand. A coop wouldnt hurt my feelings. Having to buy them myself will hurt my feelings! ( As it will hurt many more.)  Oh well :)
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: sims101 on January 15, 2010,
monoprice is the cheapest place to buy these cords I bought my first one from light o Rama they sell for 30.00$ for 16 channel and don't include the power pig tail with these from monoprice you can use  both ends  for a good deal at .82  ;D
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: rm357 on January 15, 2010,
I would welcome the co-op, but I'm concerned that the savings of a few cents per cord would be lost in the co-op shipping...
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: comporder1 on January 15, 2010,
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I would welcome the co-op, but I'm concerned that the savings of a few cents per cord would be lost in the co-op shipping...

I have had that concern as well. I guess would depend on how good of a deal he gives us and how many you need. They do real good on shipping. My order of 128 shipped for around $12. Not bad at all. I guess we will have to wait and see.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: sims101 on January 22, 2010,
Let's do it get a coop on cords and enclosures too
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: Kwajtony on January 22, 2010,
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I bought these and I like them.  They are precut and eady to be tinned and installed.

http://www.americord.com/roj-to-1-15p-prod-646.html

You can call them and get a bulk quote.  Last year they were .99  each shipped for 150 of them.

I just asked them to quote these at bulk (for myself and out of curiousity) @ 75 and 150 units, I will post the results here.


Received the below response, notice no shipping information received, sent seperate email requesting shipping cost.


Tony
For item 58-0061-01.642 we currently only have a little over 4700 in stock.
50    $1.43
100   $1.25

Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: KeithTarpley on January 23, 2010,
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Let's do it get a coop on cords and enclosures too

Greetings,,,

The enclosures tend to cost considerably more with shipping twice.  Especially since, if you buy enough to meet the required amount, that shipping is free from Broadband, as of the last few months or so.  We've had a few people locally go in together to make the needed quantity.  That's why we don't have the cases for LE or FS in the coops now.

Keith
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: bittig on January 23, 2010,
Speaking of cases, I do not have enough for my current order to get the free shipping.  Is there anyone if the Fort Wayne, IN area who would want to go together on some cases?
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: crazybob on January 25, 2010,
Has anyone looked into / heard back about a cord coop yet? With over 500 expresses in the current coop i believe there would be a HUGE demand!
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: RJ on January 25, 2010,
When looked at in the past it was not worth it. The few cents savings did not add up to all the extra shipping, Shipping boxes needed an time of the coop manager.

RJ
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: jap813 on January 27, 2010,
I have contacted a manufacture in China about cords and waiting on a response back, however the min. order amount is 3000 units which if the price is right could work.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: comporder1 on January 27, 2010,
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Has anyone looked into / heard back about a cord coop yet? With over 500 expresses in the current coop i believe there would be a HUGE demand!

I haven't heard back. I emailed him again yesterday. Hopefully he will be able to help us out.

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When looked at in the past it was not worth it. The few cents savings did not add up to all the extra shipping, Shipping boxes needed an time of the coop manager.

RJ

Definitely a concern. I would hope that iofast would see the possible demand and just give us a good deal..... maybe a coupon code or something. And just let them handle the shipping.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: memphislights on January 27, 2010,
iofast doesn't seem to list the 3ft female output plugs that they had last year.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: jnealand on January 27, 2010,
Personally it seems like a waste of time to pursue a cord coop.  If I have 10 LEs then I would need 160 cords.  I buy mine from Home Depot for .94 like lot of other people.  If I saved .10 per cord we are only talking about $16.  Then I add in shipping and other time constraints and to me it is not worth even thinking about.  Even I was to save .20 per cord I have too many other things to worry about and for me I have a brand new HD just one mile down the road from me.  I've also bought cords at Walmart for .96.  Looking at 3 wire cords is a waste also since there is no grounding available with the LEs.  The only thing I do different is to use 14ga input cords on the LEs, although I know of people who use the std .94 cord for their input power as well.  I make my own by buying a 100ft 14ga extension cord and then cutting it into 6ft lengths.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: jap813 on January 27, 2010,
 I am asking a company in China for a quote on the min. quanity which is 3000. All of these prices are per piece and DOES not include shipping, the figures are based on 3000 units of each size. These are the regular indoor type extension cords. :o ;D
6FT   USD 0.27
9FT   USD 0.34
12FT   USD 0.41
15FT   USD 0.48
18FT   USD 0.55
20FT   USD 0.60
25FT   USD 0.72
 
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: comporder1 on January 28, 2010,
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I am asking a company in China for a quote on the min. quanity which is 3000. All of these prices are per piece and DOES not include shipping, the figures are based on 3000 units of each size. These are the regular indoor type extension cords. :o ;D
6FT   USD 0.27
9FT   USD 0.34
12FT   USD 0.41
15FT   USD 0.48
18FT   USD 0.55
20FT   USD 0.60
25FT   USD 0.72
 

Not bad, but have you checked into shipping from China? That could get crazy.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: comporder1 on January 28, 2010,
I am also getting some some quotes, but would like to get a general consensus on how many people use grounded vs. ungrounded. I personaly have always used grounded.... just in case. But in three years of doing this, I have never used a ground device connected to a controller.

So..... If we do manage to get a coop together that is worth doing, what would everyone want GROUNDED or UNGROUNDED.

Thanks,
Carey
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: sims101 on January 28, 2010,
Grounded for me do you have any pic of these
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: lineman on January 28, 2010,
Just a freindly FYI just bought 250' 18/3 wire link is on vendor deals it cost me 18.80 total shipping included.


             
                 Jeff  ;D


PS- i think this was a good deal didn't research it though
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: comporder1 on January 28, 2010,
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Just a freindly FYI just bought 250' 18/3 wire link is on vendor deals it cost me 18.80 total shipping included.


             
                 Jeff  ;D


PS- i think this was a good deal didn't research it though

have you priced ends?
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: Caliente Christmas on January 28, 2010,
We really need to know what the shipping cost will to the COOP manager and then to the members home.  That will give you a true price.


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I am asking a company in China for a quote on the min. quanity which is 3000. All of these prices are per piece and DOES not include shipping, the figures are based on 3000 units of each size. These are the regular indoor type extension cords. :o ;D
6FT   USD 0.27
9FT   USD 0.34
12FT   USD 0.41
15FT   USD 0.48
18FT   USD 0.55
20FT   USD 0.60
25FT   USD 0.72
 
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: lineman on January 28, 2010,
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Just a freindly FYI just bought 250' 18/3 wire link is on vendor deals it cost me 18.80 total shipping included.


             
                 Jeff  ;D


PS- i think this was a good deal didn't research it though
Yes  12 for 18.00 just went to 1 site really haven,t look for any deals yet i posted earlier just to help with what i paid per foot thought it might help when looking at prices

have you priced ends?
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: cBell on January 28, 2010,
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So..... If we do manage to get a coop together that is worth doing, what would everyone want GROUNDED or UNGROUNDED.

I use grounded so that I can use up all the heavy duty extension cords that I've accumulated from my static display without those grey, three-prong adapters.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: comporder1 on January 29, 2010,
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So..... If we do manage to get a coop together that is worth doing, what would everyone want GROUNDED or UNGROUNDED.

I use grounded so that I can use up all the heavy duty extension cords that I've accumulated from my static display without those grey, three-prong adapters.

if we were to get ungrounded cables, but the receptacles were so that you could plug a grounded extension cord into them, would that be ok?
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: cBell on January 29, 2010,
Not at all saying this is necessary, but what I do, is run grounded input cords, and tie all the grounds together in the box.  Again, not saying this is right, wrong, necessary or other wise, just what I do.

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_8bePyZyCStg/SbsuhD562HI/AAAAAAAABtA/RgxYYge6f4k/s400/IMG_1284.JPG)

Sorry It's not an express... Please don't tar and feather me  :D
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: comporder1 on January 29, 2010,
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Not at all saying this is necessary, but what I do, is run grounded input cords, and tie all the grounds together in the box.  Again, not saying this is right, wrong, necessary or other wise, just what I do.

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_8bePyZyCStg/SbsuhD562HI/AAAAAAAABtA/RgxYYge6f4k/s400/IMG_1284.JPG)

Sorry It's not an express... Please don't tar and feather me  :D


Thats a nice clean install.  :)

This also exactly how I have always done my controllers. (10 so far) But because the controller housing is plastic, and the devices pluging into the controllers are not grounded (light strings and such.... i realize there could be exceptions) I am beginning to question the need for the ground. That is why I am trying to get an idea from everyone else what they prefer.

Thanks for the input.
Carey
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: z327 on January 29, 2010,
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I've had good luck and good prices with Monoprice.com

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10228

These are full cords sets not pigtails but I usually just cut off the end I don't need.  They have several options for length in 14, 16 and 18 AWG and their quantity pricing is really good.


Alan T

Thanks just ordered 64
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: inzeos on September 28, 2010,
Wondering if anyone did the math and or received quotes back on shipping from China.

I have a few custom cable vendors I've worked with in the past for various day job needs.

One vendor that I know of will remove jacketing to order and twist and tin the ends.  This type of prep work might make sense, especially considering you would not need to worry about the stripping down of an already completed cable.  If done improperly or not inspected right you could expose a conductor.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: holland lights on March 25, 2011,
How long of a pigtail do i need?
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: inzeos on March 25, 2011,
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How long of a pigtail do i need?

Personal preference really.  You might get away with 1' cords; however, you'll have very little slack for stripping the conductors and getting them into the case and adding strain relief to them.  I would probably not go shorter than 1.5'.  Some people prefer longer cords some shorter.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: holland lights on March 25, 2011,
ok thanks. Im just getting other stuff bought for the le's i bought. Still waiting for 3 people to pay so they can order the parts in.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: rm357 on March 25, 2011,
For my megatree, I put 6' cords on the LEs. It makes for a bit of an octopus to untangle, but I didn't need any additional cords for the megatree so it is a reasonable trade-off. For other parts of the yard I made legths depending on where the power was needed. Using SSR4s for the Icicle lights, I did 15', 6', 6', 15' for the four outputs. Again, I only neede an additional 3 foot extension for one end... For the star on my megatree, the SSR4 is mounted on the star and has only one outlet with a 15' cord. The other three circuits are wired directly into the SSR4 with no plugs...

Needless to say, I had the whole layout planned before I started buying and putting stuff together. I figure each year I will be adding to the previous year, and if I need to change the lengths, it's just a couple of screws and a zip tie per cord...

RM
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: inzeos on March 25, 2011,
Custom lengths work great for display elements you know you will be doing over and over.   I will probably end up doing custom extension outlets using SPT cord for certain elements.
Title: Re: POWER CORD PIGTAILS
Post by: sleonhardt on March 27, 2011,
I am in the garage door business. I am going to get them from old electric openers that I take down. Maybe you could find a local company that is throwing away regularly something that has a cord on it that you can cut it off of. It is just a thought. But with the cost of gas maybe not.

Scott