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Fun => The Porch => Topic started by: Mickpat on July 20, 2013,

Title: Never Wet
Post by: Mickpat on July 20, 2013,
Looks like another option to protect display elements from getting web.  Saw the cans at HD for about $20.  Looking at the iPhone video, it looks like it is safe to spray on electronics. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrjXSsfxMQ

Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: isellgum on July 20, 2013,
That stuff is AMAZING.  It is justing hitting shelves only at Home Depot. 
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: meman on July 21, 2013,
Imagine the possibilities. Is it clear enough to replace Rain-X?
Spray it on the bottom of your boat or wave runner to reduce drag....should be good for an extra 5-10 MPH at least.
Might even turn a wet suit into a dry suit.
It will be banned by the Olympic committee for sure.....
 
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: keitha43 on July 21, 2013,
Didn't Clark Griswold invent that?
Title: Never Wet
Post by: drlucas on July 21, 2013,
Will this help or hurt the laundry detergent industry?!
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: sirloinofbeef001 on July 21, 2013,
That means I don't need a bib when we eat out. My wife will love me... Seems awesome.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: tbone321 on July 21, 2013,
That might work well for those with older nodes and probably work better than the thinned plasti-dip method that never seems to fully dry.  I would think that it would work well on all of the controllers except fot the Express.  The reasn I would be carefull using it on the Express is that it it could make repairs difficult if you blow out a triac or need to replace any other components on the board.  I would be cautious about using it on Pixelnet hubs that have soldered in fuses until some experimenting is done on soldering is done on boards treated with this stuff.  If it proves easy to remove for soldering, then it should be good for just about everything.  Unlike rain-X, thisn appears to be a permanent coating so I would avoid spraying it into connectors as well.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on July 21, 2013,
Bought some today at Home Depot. They had a whole display of the product.

It comes in a box with two spray cans for $19.95.

This will be great on the pixel rectangles that seem to be the most vulnerable to water.

I certainly would not use it on any electronics that will be in protective cases until the solder ability has been determined.

It supposedly can be used on a cellphone to make it waterproof. My concern would be the coating of the i/o connectors.



Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: JonB256 on July 21, 2013,
I had problems with some of my Ray Wu metal squares last year. He replaced most of them and I'll look SERIOUSLY at this option before I expose the new ones to rain and dew for a whole month.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: combustionmark on July 21, 2013,
I usually make a cardboard model of my project. Now I can just spray this stuff on it.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: Steve Gase on July 21, 2013,
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I had problems with some of my Ray Wu metal squares last year. He replaced most of them and I'll look SERIOUSLY at this option before I expose the new ones to rain and dew for a whole month.
good thought!
i'm working on my coroflakes now with the square pixels...  with your suggestion I will seal them before enclosing them. :)
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: MazdaFan on July 22, 2013,
I think this stuff is really cool as well, but after a little research any type of "oil" based fluid (including the oils in your skin) break this product down rapidly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQYewEamNg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQYewEamNg)

I suppose that if you are spraying something with no intention of handling it again it would be great... but at $2.00 per sq foot (one package covers 10 sq feet) its a little pricey.

Think I'll stick with the silicone caulk to keep my electronics dry for now.

Jamie
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on July 22, 2013,
Guess I'll have to get a pack of rubber gloves.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: bcstuff on July 22, 2013,
It is not UV resistant and it will flake off due to exposure.

Check out the reviews on Home Depot

http://www.homedepot.com/p/204216476? (http://www.homedepot.com/p/204216476?)
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: tbone321 on July 22, 2013,
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I think this stuff is really cool as well, but after a little research any type of "oil" based fluid (including the oils in your skin) break this product down rapidly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQYewEamNg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQYewEamNg)

I suppose that if you are spraying something with no intention of handling it again it would be great... but at $2.00 per sq foot (one package covers 10 sq feet) its a little pricey.

Think I'll stick with the silicone caulk to keep my electronics dry for now.

Jamie

LOL, not exactly what I would call a scientific test.  It looks to me like the fluid was sticking to his fingerprints.  If it really fails that easily, I really doubt that rustolium would have released it, unless they have realy gone down hill.  As always, time will tell.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: keitha43 on July 22, 2013,
Overheard at a paintball facility-"I shot you." Other guy "Prove it. I don't see any paint."
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: tbone321 on July 22, 2013,
LOL!     <la..
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: caretaker on July 22, 2013,
I used Rust-Oleum's Leak Seal clear on my nodes (I also used the black till I found they had the clear)
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-11-oz-Clear-Leakseal-207340/203591068?N=aquxZ1asZblwZbed#.Ue2MGkB_C6A
and it worked well.  I did require a couple of coats but didn't have any major problems with my pixel strings.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on July 26, 2013,
I have talked to their tech support and unfortunately what originally appeared to be an ideal solution to waterproofing lights will not work in its current form.

The way it changes the surface of a object it then appears opaque or milky and reduces the light through put.  <fp.

Ok well back to Home Depot for a refund.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: tbone321 on July 26, 2013,
Did anyone try it to see how much light will be blocked?  These things are pretty bright.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on July 26, 2013,
Send me $20 and I will test it.  :)
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: sirloinofbeef001 on August 06, 2013,
I've seen many alternate reviews and I don't think its what its cut out to be. It seems to be a short term fix.. I'm not gonna spend the 20 to find out.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on August 06, 2013,
I contacted their tech support.

After that discussion I took my Never wet back to Home Depot and got my $20 back.

According to their tech support it will severely reduce the light output of our pixels. They don't recommend it for auto headlamps and those are pretty bright.

Also the product will definitely degrade in direct sunlight.

They even told me that it is not recommended for use on a cellphone either.

It's your $20.

May the force be with you.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: drlucas on August 06, 2013,
So it's good for preventing ketchup stains, that's it? Hmmm....this might come down to a coin toss on if I invest in a can now....
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: Mickpat on August 06, 2013,
Some tests have been done.  Check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNJ4CEoOg4g

Agree it might not meet our needs, but still cool to see.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: lineman on August 07, 2013,
Well  I bought it and tried it on a set of sneakers and they are water proof now BUT what was once a set of black sneakers are now milky white and black. It will leave a white milky residue but it does repel liquid. So I can see where this would be useful in certain instances just not sure about BLINKY.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on August 07, 2013,
It's the milky white covering that changes the surface so that the liquid is repelled. That is what also reduces light output.
Title: Re: Never Wet
Post by: tbone321 on August 07, 2013,
I'm not sure how much light it would block and I.m not going to spend $20 to find out.  I read in here that they don't recommend it on car headlights but I wonder if that is due to light blockage or the coating altering the beam pattern.  I am a bit supprised that there CS also claims that this coating isn't UV resistant.  That makes little to no sense.  If you have a coating that is designed to make things "waterproof", doesn't that also indicate that in most instances it is going to be outside.  And if it's outside, doesn't that also indicate that it will be exposed to sunlight as well.  This seems like a rather large expense for what would be a rather short lived protection.