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Hardware => Lynx Smart String => Topic started by: TheBanker on December 04, 2012,

Title: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: TheBanker on December 04, 2012,
This is just a statement.  I don't know if anyone else is, but I am blowing hub fuses left and right.  Hub 1 has 8 blown fuses, hub 2 has 5 blown fuses, hub 3 has about 4 or 5 blown fuses.  For me it seems like any short, bad cable, cut a smart string wire while powered.....I understand the point of be happy you had the fuses, but maybe we could have changeable ones for people like me?  I think maybe I need to go order about 50 of them.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: jnealand on December 04, 2012,
I did the same in the early days last year.  Now that I know how to blow them and have a bunch of replacements I have not blown another one.  They were not hard to replace using the radio shack desoldering iron.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: tthompson on December 04, 2012,
how many pixels were you pushing on a strand to make that happen or was it something else?
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: jnealand on December 04, 2012,
Most mine came from not sealing the out ends that came from the factory with the wires tinned and not protected.  Now I cut them off flush or wrap tape around them to make sure the ends cannot touch and create the short.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: keitha43 on December 04, 2012,
Mine came from rain before the ip68 version were available.

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Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: chrisatpsu on December 04, 2012,
i cut the ends, seperate a small section, and tape each conductor separately then tape it all up.

might be overkill, but they're isolated.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: taybrynn on December 04, 2012,
I incorrectly spliced a SS flex strip back together ... and when I plugged the strip into the SS HUB it blew out every SS port on the hub I tried it on.  I never saw any lights, but it was a tough lesson.  Luckily I only took out two fuses doing that.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: injury on December 04, 2012,
blew my first 2 fuses last night in the house. Was doing some last minute splicing before taking things out and shorted some wires with the hub plugged in.  <fp. Thats what I get for rushing.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: zwiller on December 05, 2012,
I don't mind the fuses so much since I bought extras, but I usually fry a pic when a short happens/fuse goes.  I mean kill it: can't erase, reprogram, nada.  Lost like 6...  I pay much more attention now and haven't lost any since I gave up being careless.  The key was buying some insulated jumpers for when I felt the urge to get "creative".  All of $5 for 8 at the Shack. 

I cut SS ends flush and a dab of liquid electrical tape.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: taybrynn on December 06, 2012,
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I cut SS ends flush and a dab of liquid electrical tape

I cut them, but stagger the cuts of the wires, so each wire is a different length so that can't contact each other, then dip in the liquid electrical tape.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: davron12 on December 07, 2012,
Not sure they'll fit the hubs, but Littelfuse does make holders for the fuses

http://www.littelfuse.com/search-results.aspx?dsNav=Ntk:All|pico+fuse+holder|1|,N:94&both=true

I thought about getting this year, but they're around $2 a piece at Mouser. I was able to buy my fuses for $0.40, so I opted not to buy them and just leave open ports on the hub knowing I'd probably blow a few this year.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: chrisatpsu on December 07, 2012,
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I cut SS ends flush and a dab of liquid electrical tape

I cut them, but stagger the cuts of the wires, so each wire is a different length so that can't contact each other, then dip in the liquid electrical tape.

I actually did that with another cable i needed to replace.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: wwwgator on December 07, 2012,
Made this to help.....no shorting test leads with anything ...
580 ohm in series with the led, crimped on pins 3 and 7

quick and easy.....like my...oh nevermind.... <fp.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: chrisatpsu on December 07, 2012,
cheater   hehe
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: wwwgator on December 07, 2012,
Hey, gimme a break......
 for 12 hrs a day its meter this..... and  password that......if it saves me a some space on the bench .....
 plus, it's small enough that if I drop it ....either the lawn mower or my dog will find it for me....eventually :o
yes, I also built one out of a pig tail to test at the SSC end.... ;)
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: urthegman on December 08, 2012,
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Made this to help.....no shorting test leads with anything ...
580 ohm in series with the led, crimped on pins 3 and 7

quick and easy.....like my...oh nevermind.... <fp.
Brilliant!!!! Any chance of you doing a how to for the electronically challenged among us?
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: caretaker on December 08, 2012,
Very well thought out! Thanks for passing the tip along.  <res.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: wwwgator on December 08, 2012,
as simple as it is....
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: travailen on December 09, 2012,
Now that I have changed my layout, I am considering moving the fuses to the pigtails that run between the hub and the SSCs.

Rick S
Title: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: rm357 on December 09, 2012,
Just resist the temptation to leave the fuse out.
The over-current condition that blew the fuse will find something else to burn out if there is no fuse.

Burning nodes
Melted cat 5
Burnt traces

Makes replacing those pesky fuses look easy to repair...
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: wwwgator on December 09, 2012,
If you notice in the picture, I didnt install my fuses until after I had the RJ-45 jacks installed.
 I inserted the fuses and turned the board upside, the fuses now "fall" to the same height as the jacks and soldered in place.
 If I were to blow the fuse, it's easier to test and to grip the bad fuse for easy replacement.
 I wish I thought of this on my first SSH.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: dpitts on December 09, 2012,
When a fuse blows on my hubs (have not had one blow this year) I do not remove it. I just solder a new one on the back of board. May not be the cleanest but removing fuses too many times is not good for pcb either.
Title: Re: Blowing Hub Fuses
Post by: pk on December 09, 2012,
wwwgator -

That is how I mounted my fuses too after reading about the difficulty of replacing fuses from other members.