LOL, don't get me wrong. I agree that it IS a good idea to get them that way. I was saying in general that there really is no need for the coop manager to pre-prgram the PIC's for ANY coop, especially if it is time consuming. As for these PIC's, you could always use an SSC v4 to flash them on if needed since they use the same PIC as the Zeus. If there is a need for a work around then it should be added to the assembly manual. I would also suggest posting the firmware for these PIC's by the time the Zeus ships incase someone gets a bad PIC or the flash was missed or corrupted so they can reflash it or flash a replacement. I have gotten bad PIC's on some orders so it does happen and there is going to be a very small window bewtween when this ships and the start of the holiday season for this kit.