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Hardware => Bobcat DMX Tester => Topic started by: Donny M. Carter on February 14, 2012,

Title: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: Donny M. Carter on February 14, 2012,
Can the Bobcat be programmed to test other DMX controllers? Like a Renard with DMX protocol. Maybe have two different PICs, one for Lynx and one for Renard. Thanks for any info either way!

Donny
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: chrisatpsu on February 14, 2012,
Does the renard with dmx respond to dmx?    Dmx is dmx?
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: tbone321 on February 14, 2012,
The Renard doesn't deal with DMX in the normal way but the tester should still work with it.  The trick it to only connect one Renard to it at a time.
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: Donny M. Carter on February 14, 2012,
Thanks guys! Will give it a try!

Donny
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: JonB256 on February 14, 2012,
You'll need a pin converter for Renard. The boards use pins 4 and 5 instead of 1 and 2. But they are reversed from LOR/D-Light (where pin 4 is Data + it becomes Data - )
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: chrisatpsu on February 14, 2012,
so for clarity of people readin this thread...

Renard uses which pin for data+, -

LOR uses which pin for data +, -
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: caretaker on February 15, 2012,
LYNX  =   Data + Pin1   Data - Pin2  (White with orange stripe/Orange)
LOR   =    Data + Pin4   Data - Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)
Renard = Data - Pin4     Data + Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe) Pins 1 & 2 Gnd

You can find this information in the WIKI

Corrected error for Renard Pins...
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: bcstuff on February 15, 2012,
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LYNX  =   Data + Pin1   Data - Pin2  (White with orange stripe/Orange)
LOR   =    Data + Pin4   Data - Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)
Renard = Data - Pin4     Data + Pin4 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)

You can find this information in the WIKI

Renard is actually Data - Pin4    Data + PIN 5
and ground on Pin 1 & 2 for the RS-485 protocol.

Please refer to this link for information on all Renard pin outs
http://doityourselfchristmas.com/wiki/index.php?title=Renard_Data_Cables (http://doityourselfchristmas.com/wiki/index.php?title=Renard_Data_Cables)

There is also a DMX (RJ-45) to Renard Connection diagram on the bottom of the above page.
That diagram shows the pin out for a cable adapter that must be used for running DMX data into a Renard, if the Renard is also flashed with the DMX firmware.
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: chrisatpsu on February 15, 2012,
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LYNX  =   Data + Pin1   Data - Pin2  (White with orange stripe/Orange)
LOR   =    Data + Pin4   Data - Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)
Renard = Data - Pin4     Data + Pin4 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)

You can find this information in the WIKI

i know, but once someone writes it in a thread, it now becomes searchable for all the future generations of blinky rookies  : )
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: Steve Gase on February 15, 2012,
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LYNX  =   Data + Pin1   Data - Pin2  (White with orange stripe/Orange)
LOR   =    Data + Pin4   Data - Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)
Renard = Data - Pin4     Data + Pin4 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)

You can find this information in the WIKI

i know, but once someone writes it in a thread, it now becomes searchable for all the future generations of blinky rookies  : )
Is renard using pin 4 for both positive and ground?
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: tbone321 on February 15, 2012,
that would not be possible.  This is a typo.  Pin 5 is positive and pin 4 is ground.
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: chrisatpsu on February 15, 2012,
it's not really ground, but more of the negative voltage
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: tbone321 on February 15, 2012,
That's not really correct.  The RS485 ues a differential voltage.  When the + is a t 5V and the - is at 0V that is a positive differential and is considered a 1, when the - is at 5V and the + is at 0V tht is considered a negative differential and is considered a zero.  There is no negative voltage on either wire but you are correctin saying that neither is a ground so I was wrong there.  Pin 4 is the negative lead, not the ground.
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: Steve Gase on February 15, 2012,
Since there have been multiple back and forths, could someone summarize in table form the accurate info?
when I saw a latter message with incorrect info i missed that there had already been a correctio, then follow-on discussions ensued, and we missed seeing a final conclusion.

i think most of the threads could benefit for a final summary.
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: tbone321 on February 16, 2012,
Here is the updated table. 

LYNX  =   Data + Pin1   Data - Pin2  (White with orange stripe/Orange)
LOR   =    Data + Pin4   Data - Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)
Renard = Data - Pin4     Data + Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)

Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: chrisatpsu on February 16, 2012,
USE:            Data+          Data-          586B (most used)                                    586A
LYNX            Pin1             Pin2           (1)White Orange / (2)Orange                    (1)White Green / (2)Green
LOR              Pin4            Pin5            (4)White Blue / (5)Blue                            (4)White Blue / (5)Blue
Renard         Pin5             Pin4            (5)Blue / (4)White Blue                            (5)Blue / (4)White Blue