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Hardware => Lynx Smart String => Topic started by: Jeffl on December 09, 2010,

Title: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: Jeffl on December 09, 2010,
I'm curious what everyone will be using the new Smart Strings for?  Please post what your plans are.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: lonewolf41 on December 09, 2010,
Megatree(s)!

-Keith
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: rrowan on December 09, 2010,
Hi Jeff

I am starting out small and just doing window frames. After that I want to replace my micro tree red and green lights with SS and of course one day to have a SS mega tree.

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: Rainlover on December 09, 2010,
The columns on the front of our house.
I am trying to talk the boss in to making a reader board for the front of our store.

John
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: mikedbom on December 09, 2010,
i was thinking of outlining the house or a 10' mega tree.  stringing them in some sort of chasing design might look cool as well.  I would definitely like to see them in person, how bright they are, how easy they are to strap or manipulate.  
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: CaptKirk on December 09, 2010,
BLINKY - FLASHY!!!!   >.d9
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: csf on December 09, 2010,
Right now I am planing a 16 string mega tree. I may cut it down to 14 and use one string for an arch and one string for a star.

If all goes well for next year the following year I would like 3,200 nodes and replace allot of the lights in my display.

Right now I am like 99% incandescent and and am moving allot of the display items to be four colors, white, red, green, color.

Power is becoming and issue, LED's are expensive and controllers are not cheap.

So right now If I wanted to add 4 strings (light count 100) to the display it would be 4 strings * 4 strings of lights per string = 16 light sets * 12$ per set = 192$ + 1 controller at 200$ = 392$ (with out taking in to account power cords.

This can all be replaced with smart strings. 4 smart strings of 100 nodes would be 252$ + 30$ for the control board + 40$ for the unit controls = 322$.

So the coast would actually be less and the amount of control and options you get is allot greater.

I can see allot of people switching the majority of there displays to rgb flood lights and smart stings in the next few years.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: lineman on December 09, 2010,
To get Smarter of course <fp.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: kenjreno on December 09, 2010,
Going around the windows and eves at first, then arches then a nice megatree
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: wbuehler on December 09, 2010,
Going around the Windows first and making a new 6 Foot tree.

Bill

Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: kfxi on December 09, 2010,

mega trees


Ken
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: Made2Rock on December 09, 2010,
I was planning on making some medium size trees that would have lights spiralled around the tree. This would allow me to be a little bit more creative and break things up. Then along comes RJ's video and he did it with Smart Strings so it became a whole new level of tree.

Of course Captkirk said it best

BLINKY - FLASHY!!!!    >.d9

Joe
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: travailen on December 09, 2010,
Mega tree.

I was planning my tree for 2012 but, this is too good to wait.

I have been looking at LEDs for other parts of the yard but, until they make LEDs that can burn paint,
I am keeping my C9s on the eves.

Rick S
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: jnealand on December 09, 2010,
I would like to replace my 3 strings of LEDs on my roof top and my 4 strings of LEDs on my gutters with SS.  Then repurpose the LEDs to make new mini trees and get rid of my last major power drain using incans.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: foodseller on December 09, 2010,
My plan is to use them for world domination! (insert crazy man laugh here)     <yk.. 

Actually, I plan on replacing my 18 foot mega tree and running them along the eves of the house. And will probably do my arches with them as well, utilizing some sort of diffuser with them.

foody
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: Night Owl on December 10, 2010,
17' megatree.  This year was my first attempt at building a megatree and ended up combining a lot of existing ideas and adding in a few of my own.  I was going to drop a serious amount of money on LEDs when RJ announced the Smart Strings.  So I ended up buying a bunch of cheap Walmart lights to get me through this year.

When I take the tree down I'll probably take pictures and create an Instructable or something. 
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: dmaccole on December 10, 2010,
I'll be framing the garage and front doors with them.

\dmc
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: soundmankc on December 10, 2010,
My idea is to build several large "pakages" in the front yard out of which a Grinch will rise with one of those guns to shoot Christmas lights (like in the movie) and have the gun follow my roof line and "shoot" the lights on the roof line. One bang of the gun, one node on white till the roof outline is done. My wife is already rolling her eyes at me.....  ;)
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: Jeffl on December 11, 2010,
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My idea is to build several large "pakages" in the front yard out of which a Grinch will rise with one of those guns to shoot Christmas lights (like in the movie) and have the gun follow my roof line and "shoot" the lights on the roof line. One bang of the gun, one node on white till the roof outline is done. My wife is already rolling her eyes at me.....  ;)

Very creative idea. 
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: loveroflife96 on December 11, 2010,
I personally am excited at the opportunities that it will give us for somewhat static displays.  I remember growing up and putting lights on my families roofs when we visited and having the "twinkle" c7 and c9 bulbs and they all twinkled at different times.  I'm excited to have that as my static display when my lights are blinky blinky to the music. 

Also thinking about the neat possibilities that could be done with LSP that would allow color control diagonally, and using their layer features to do alot of intricate programming easily.  I've enjoyed using Vixen, but think I'm going to have to upgrade to LSP if I go the RGB way.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: Corey872 on December 11, 2010,
My grand plan is to set them on eves, windows and general yard lighting.  Hoping to be able to program sequences which are orange/green/violet for Halloween, then around Thanksgiving, re-load and do more typical Holiday/Christmas colors.  Once the holiday is over, pull them down and use for various mood/party lighting the rest of the year.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: PJNMCT on December 11, 2010,
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My idea is to build several large "pakages" in the front yard out of which a Grinch will rise with one of those guns to shoot Christmas lights (like in the movie) and have the gun follow my roof line and "shoot" the lights on the roof line. One bang of the gun, one node on white till the roof outline is done. My wife is already rolling her eyes at me.....  ;)

I got "those eyes" last year when I had a Santa wireframe throwing big candy canes into a big magnolia tree one by one and then they all did twinkles and rotates and patterns. At the end of the song Santa would just wave goodbye. This year SHE suggested it!   ;D

-Paul
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: DilA on December 12, 2010,
Looking at replacing existing megatree, but have some questions on the best way to do it.  Tree is 12' running 24ch, 8ea of RWB, 70ct string of LED running up and back down the tree for a channel. That's 1680 LEDS on 48 35ct strings around the tree. Thinking of replacing that with 840 nodes but not sure about how to split them up. Will it be easier programming with 24 SSC's and 24 35 node strings or I could use 12 SSC and 12 70 node strings, but I am worried that nodes 1-35 going up the tree and then 36-70 going down could turn into a nightmare for programming. Anyone got any thoughts on megatree layout using smart strings.

thanks

Bob
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: rrowan on December 12, 2010,
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Looking at replacing existing megatree, but have some questions on the best way to do it.  Tree is 12' running 24ch, 8ea of RWB, 70ct string of LED running up and back down the tree for a channel. That's 1680 LEDS on 48 35ct strings around the tree. Thinking of replacing that with 840 nodes but not sure about how to split them up. Will it be easier programming with 24 SSC's and 24 35 node strings or I could use 12 SSC and 12 70 node strings, but I am worried that nodes 1-35 going up the tree and then 36-70 going down could turn into a nightmare for programming. Anyone got any thoughts on megatree layout using smart strings.

thanks

Bob

Hi Bob,

This is just a wild guess and to be honest I don't have a mega tree. But I would just have each string long enough to reach from the bottom to the top. If you like the string on the opposite side to light up a the same time then set the SSC to the same address. But I would think just mapping out the tree so you know what strings are opposite from each other would give you more flexibility example SSC1 and SSC12 are opposite from each other on the tree. During one part of the seq you have them do the same pattern, other times they can do different things.

Hope that is clearer than mud

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: Cobergas on December 13, 2010,
I am going to make a giant TV out of them. I figure if you can back up far enough you could get ok picture quality.

Really though I have a secret surprise that no one else has suggested yet..

:)

Plans will be posted.

Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: Trepidati0n on December 14, 2010,
1.  Good FW LED's lights are 15c-20c each.  Put down 4 colors (R,G,B,W) to create a reaosble color palat...and you are looing at 60c-80c.  While you can blend, it does not blend well (mixing)

2.  SS are $0.65 per lamp)...by default, almost cheaper.  Throw in how much easier to install and extreme reduction in wiring (and evil 115VAC) and it almsot becomes a no brainer.

3.  SS are easy to repair.  If I understand the technology correctly, you can just cut ou the "bad light" and replace IT!

So in short, it is going to replace pretty much everything eventually where instalation is hard or needs to be elegenat. Therefore, framing of the house, doors, windows (they are all cedar wrapped per HOA).  I will still use strings and LE's where I am trying to create volume and have the space.

(http://www.ra-specht.com/newhouse/l5abbb442-m0x.jpg)
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: ratroder on December 14, 2010,
I was thinking of outlining my roofs and doing my eves with them.

Does anyone know if the length between each bulb can be changed? Like make the on 4 or 5 in centers instead of 4 inch centers? and does anyone know the overall length of a 128 node strand?
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: magic8192 on December 16, 2010,
I have been considering building a 4' high x 24' long grid to display messages like MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR during the show and display bells while jingle bells is playing etc...  The smart string could create some pretty cool effects. 

It is either that or a mega tree. 
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: Livermore-Dad on December 17, 2010,
I'm not sure on the quantity, I really am waiting for a bit more information and a bit more visuals, how bright, how long is a 128 node string etc.

Would love to replace many of my C9 LED multi's with this so that I can do easy framing/window color changing..

Do these then run off the lynx express (current coop) or? Wondering what all someone would need to buy to bring the magic?

I only have 90 LED's up top
Have 50 along the lower eve
50 around each window (*5)
50 down each column (*2)
600 leds on one tree wrap
200 leds on a second tree wrap

Main concern is brightness and dispersion
Thanks
Tory
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: dmaccole on December 17, 2010,
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Do these then run off the lynx express (current coop) or? Wondering what all someone would need to buy to bring the magic?

No. They use a dongle (must be dedicated to Smart Strings; ~$45 if you don't have one), a hub (which handles power injection and splitting and also outputs DMX; current design handles 16 controllers; future designs may be for more or less; the 16-controller version is estimated to cost around $30), an ATX power supply (anywhere from free to $50) and a controller (around $8), which can handle up to 128 pixels.

Smart Strings are about 40 feet for 128 pixels, or about 3.5 inches between pixels.

Just for grins, let's say you want to replace everything except your two trees; that would be 490 pixels (so let's round up to 500):

*Pixels themselves: $325-$375, depending upon shipping from China.

*Dongle (if you don't have one): ~$45.

*Hub: ~$30.

*ATX: ~$25.

*Controllers (need at least four, though your topography may require more): ~$32.

*Cat5 cabling: ~$25.

If my trusty calculator is correct, that would be right around $500. Final pricing may be wildly different.

YMMV, not valid in all 50 states, this does not imply or warrant a guarantee; it is, in fact, a wild-behind guess on my part and I could be off by a factor of 100-200 percent.

\dmc
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: meman on December 18, 2010,
Plan to start with some simple framing and borders. And maybe a really cool feature like this backlit star I just saw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlXH7nUqR3s

Mike E.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: ron d on December 19, 2010,
Im ua before 5 in the morning simply thinking about this question that seems to have been haunting me for a few weeks now. What have I thought of using them for ? EVERYTHING!!! even indoor on my christmas tree and under cabnit lighting in my kitchen. Out back on my deck not to mention  everything and more in my christmas display!
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: tbone321 on December 19, 2010,
I can't use them on any of my Christmas trees as they are all on turntables so until somke type of wireless becomes available for them, I am restricted to using them on the house.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: FireMedic4Christ on December 19, 2010,
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My grand plan is to set them on eves, windows and general yard lighting.  Hoping to be able to program sequences which are orange/green/violet for Halloween, then around Thanksgiving, re-load and do more typical Holiday/Christmas colors.  Once the holiday is over, pull them down and use for various mood/party lighting the rest of the year.

Don't forget about red/pink/white for Valentine's Day, red/white/blue for July4th, veterans and patriot day, green/gold/yellow for St. Patrick's Day and all of the pastels for spring and Easter.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: loveroflife96 on December 23, 2010,
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My grand plan is to set them on eves, windows and general yard lighting.  Hoping to be able to program sequences which are orange/green/violet for Halloween, then around Thanksgiving, re-load and do more typical Holiday/Christmas colors.  Once the holiday is over, pull them down and use for various mood/party lighting the rest of the year.

Don't forget about red/pink/white for Valentine's Day, red/white/blue for July4th, veterans and patriot day, green/gold/yellow for St. Patrick's Day and all of the pastels for spring and Easter.

Hmmm....and for those of us in South MS...and LA....we can't forget about our SAINTS....I'm thinking tailgating to a new LEVEL!
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: warspyder on January 03, 2011,
Eaves, windows, and doors on the house. Then use current LEDs in the yard.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: dowdybrown on January 04, 2011,
My wife wants a webber (spiral) tree. I told her I wasn't going to make one due to the complexity. Then RJ posted the video of his superstring tree and I showed how it could spiral to the wife. And presto! I have authorization to buy superstrings!

I had 6803-based rgb strips on my gutters and eaves this year. I may replace those with the "superstrips" RJ had in one of the videos. I hope the manufacturing quality is better than the 6803 based strips because those came with a handful of nodes DOA.

Oh, and since I'll be purchasing superstrings, you can be sure that pixelnet support will be added to xLights.

It's going to be an exciting year!

Matt
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: dmaccole on January 05, 2011,
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Oh, and since I'll be purchasing superstrings, you can be sure that pixelnet support will be added to xLights.

LOL!

The big V only crapped out on me twice between Dec. 10-Jan. 3 and, of course, once was while I wasn't home, so the show was dark for the better part of a night because of it. But enough is enough -- I think I'm committing right now to running xLights as my show scheduler in 2011.

\dmc
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: smartcontrols on January 05, 2011,
Nothing wrong with xLights, But Vixen ran for me from Nov 23 to Jan 2 every night on and off at the scheduled time without fail. Of course my show is only 6 songs long and 508 channels. I run it on a dedicated laptop using windows XP.  My show repeats continuously until the off time.

I guess it is up to the details of each display.

I will probably be switching off of Vixen this year anyway. Depends on what software comes out early enough this year that can handle Smart Strings better.

-Jeff
 
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: mmulvenna on January 09, 2011,
Anxious to hear everyone's comments on this.

Background:

We have about 30 live trees on the acre that we decorate and have historically draped LED strings in them as is fairly standard. I have for years wanted to add some additional effects to make them stand out better during the show. My twin granddaughters got a preset from Santa this year that gave me an idea for using smart strings.

Design:

Use smart strings to make spinning ornaments to hang in the trees. My idea is to mount 10 or more smart nodes and an SSC on a pvc hoop that is attached to a 12 volt motor. The ssc would be fed its signals via a slip ring so that the hoop can rotate a full 360 degrees inside a 10-12in plastic globe.

The design was done in Google Sketchup and then the video made using Sketchup's animation tool. The bulbs I used are just C9's for ease of illustration and it is the first design with a few things missing. But I think you will get the idea.

Video Link http://vimeo.com/18595517


Questions/comments:

Do you think I can add 3 more slip rings to continue the nodes to the next ornament 3-6 feet away. The next ornament would then need only the 3 slip rings for the nodes and would not need an SSC.


The globe would be hinged to provide access to the nodes and the SSC.

The hoop would be hinged to proved access to the nodes.

Need to find a cheap source for the globes and then make a stencil to add the snowflake design.

Haven't  figured out how to power the motor yet.

There are 8 slip rings as all pairs in the cat 5 are used if I am reading the WIKI correctly.

EDIT:

Thinking about a modification of only 6 slip rings, three in and three out to feed the nodes. Then the ssc will not have to spin.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: mmulvenna on January 09, 2011,
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Anxious to hear everyone's comments on this.

Background:

We have about 30 live trees on the acre that we decorate and have historically draped LED strings in them as is fairly standard. I have for years wanted to add some additional effects to make them stand out better during the show. My twin granddaughters got a preset from Santa this year that gave me an idea for using smart strings.

Design:

Use smart strings to make spinning ornaments to hang in the trees. My idea is to mount 10 or more smart nodes and an SSC on a pvc hoop that is attached to a 12 volt motor. The ssc would be fed its signals via a slip ring so that the hoop can rotate a full 360 degrees inside a 10-12in plastic globe.

The design was done in Google Sketchup and then the video made using Sketchup's animation tool. The bulbs I used are just C9's for ease of illustration and it is the first design with a few things missing. But I think you will get the idea.

Video Link http://vimeo.com/18595517


Questions/comments:

Do you think I can add 3 more slip rings to continue the nodes to the next ornament 3-6 feet away. The next ornament would then need only the 3 slip rings for the nodes and would not need an SSC.


The globe would be hinged to provide access to the nodes and the SSC.

The hoop would be hinged to proved access to the nodes.

Need to find a cheap source for the globes and then make a stencil to add the snowflake design.

Haven't  figured out how to power the motor yet.

There are 8 slip rings as all pairs in the cat 5 are used if I am reading the WIKI correctly.

EDIT:

Thinking about a modification of only 6 slip rings, three in and three out to feed the nodes. Then the ssc will not have to spin.


I did an edit to the post about using slip rings from the SSC to the nodes an mounting the SSC so it it does not spin. That way is is just the current to the nodes going thru the slip rings. Does that make more sense?
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: RJ on January 09, 2011,
I had not had a chance to reply to your PM about this so I decided to post it here.

The only issue I see is I am not sure how well high speed data with no error correction like DMX or Pixelnet or even the high speed serial data the nodes themself use would work through a slip ring. This is the only concern of the design I have.  The idea and work you have done is excellent.

RJ
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: mmulvenna on January 09, 2011,
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I had not had a chance to reply to your PM about this so I decided to post it here.

The only issue I see is I am not sure how well high speed data with no error correction like DMX or Pixelnet or even the high speed serial data the nodes themself use would work through a slip ring. This is the only concern of the design I have.  The idea and work you have done is excellent.

RJ

Thanks RJ, I am changing the design to use 3 slip rings for input to the nodes and 3 different ones for output from them and input to the next ornament.

Might have to look at using some king of mercury slip ring as suggested by Tfischer in another forum. Only one way to find out and that is to build one and give it a shot.
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: TAdamsOK on January 09, 2011,
That is an interesting idea.  Please keep us posted on the results.

My current design in my head is to make 6 light long icicles out of them spaced about 4" apart.  Since a string can be 128 long, that means I could have a icicle of about: 128pixel per string / 6pixel per drop is 21 drops.  21 drops x 4" per drop is 84" per string.  My eaves that I want to hang them off of are approximately 100' in length (lots of ups and downs and a couple dormers thrown in too).  That adds up to about 1834 pixels or 15 strands!  Ouch!  I guess I could have said 6pixels per 4" or 1.5pixel per inch @ 1200"(ish) is 1806 pixel.

I will attach them to 1/2" PVC pipe that will be snapped to the side of the eave so they are easy to put up and take down/store.

At least that is the plan...

Travis
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: mmulvenna on January 10, 2011,
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Anxious to hear everyone's comments on this.

Background:

We have about 30 live trees on the acre that we decorate and have historically draped LED strings in them as is fairly standard. I have for years wanted to add some additional effects to make them stand out better during the show. My twin granddaughters got a preset from Santa this year that gave me an idea for using smart strings.

Design:

Use smart strings to make spinning ornaments to hang in the trees. My idea is to mount 10 or more smart nodes and an SSC on a pvc hoop that is attached to a 12 volt motor. The ssc would be fed its signals via a slip ring so that the hoop can rotate a full 360 degrees inside a 10-12in plastic globe.

The design was done in Google Sketchup and then the video made using Sketchup's animation tool. The bulbs I used are just C9's for ease of illustration and it is the first design with a few things missing. But I think you will get the idea.

Video Link http://vimeo.com/18595517


Questions/comments:

Do you think I can add 3 more slip rings to continue the nodes to the next ornament 3-6 feet away. The next ornament would then need only the 3 slip rings for the nodes and would not need an SSC.


The globe would be hinged to provide access to the nodes and the SSC.

The hoop would be hinged to proved access to the nodes.

Need to find a cheap source for the globes and then make a stencil to add the snowflake design.

Haven't  figured out how to power the motor yet.

There are 8 slip rings as all pairs in the cat 5 are used if I am reading the WIKI correctly.

EDIT:

Thinking about a modification of only 6 slip rings, three in and three out to feed the nodes. Then the ssc will not have to spin.


I did an edit to the post about using slip rings from the SSC to the nodes an mounting the SSC so it it does not spin. That way is is just the current to the nodes going thru the slip rings. Does that make more sense?

As my old brain normally tends to over think things, it appears there is a much less complicated way to do this idea.

This idea came from TNG5737(at Lightshowpro.com)...and it makes a lot of sense

"What if you were to eliminate the rotating stuff all together. mount the ss nodes on a fixed surface (sphere, multi-sided something or other). use diffuser lenses to spread the light from each node out onto the outer globe inner surface. Then you switch between each node. If it were fast enough it might appear as if the lights were actually rotating inside but they would really be stationary. "

That is what is so great about this hobby. Someone can come up with an idea and ask for comments and ultimately something pretty cool will come out of it. Now I just need all the hardware to make a prototype.

If anyone else has any other ideas please keep them coming.

Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: bcstuff on January 11, 2011,
My plan is a 20 foot, 24 SS Mega Tree with a SS Mega Star atop.

Kind of like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH0z0uVn15Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH0z0uVn15Y)

2011 is gonna be awesome!

Brian
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: wwwgator on January 12, 2011,
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I had not had a chance to reply to your PM about this so I decided to post it here.

The only issue I see is I am not sure how well high speed data with no error correction like DMX or Pixelnet or even the high speed serial data the nodes themself use would work through a slip ring. This is the only concern of the design I have.  The idea and work you have done is excellent.

RJ

Gentlement, we use slip rings for data transport (RS-485) between our Omron PLC's mounted on a turret that spins a full 360 deg.  on our splicers. We load 6000lb rolls of paper into our printing presses and rely on the slip rings to transport encoder positions- encoded brake signals- prox pulses (rpm) and other assorted data. Some of the gear is over 30 years old and we only have to clean the rings and brushes annualy.

Awesome idea- and great sketch work!
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: PJNMCT on January 12, 2011,
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I had not had a chance to reply to your PM about this so I decided to post it here.

The only issue I see is I am not sure how well high speed data with no error correction like DMX or Pixelnet or even the high speed serial data the nodes themself use would work through a slip ring. This is the only concern of the design I have.  The idea and work you have done is excellent.

RJ

Gentlement, we use slip rings for data transport (RS-485) between our Omron PLC's mounted on a turret that spins a full 360 deg.  on our splicers. We load 6000lb rolls of paper into our printing presses and rely on the slip rings to transport encoder positions- encoded brake signals- prox pulses (rpm) and other assorted data. Some of the gear is over 30 years old and we only have to clean the rings and brushes annualy.

Awesome idea- and great sketch work!

We also use them on vehicles with rotating turrets that have PCs talking over ethernet. They transmit lots of data at high speed.

It can work!

-Paul
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: mr2hogs on January 12, 2011,
My plan is to build a couple of grids (32 x 32 pixels).  If my math is correct that should be about 8 strings per grid and at 4 inches between lights just over 10 1/2 feet square.

Then I can take any small image (or animated gif) from the web and convert it to my "display".  Put the two together and I have a 64 x 32 display for things like this flag waving.

(http://www.iconbazaar.com/flags/animated/usa/usa_3a.gif)

Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: remixsam on January 12, 2011,
my hope is to create ligthing for my wedding next Jan.   like wall washers and a cool chandelier (sp?) over the dancefloor...  i will keep you posted... just trying to grasp how to put it all together...
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: thshadow on January 14, 2011,
Well eventually replace all my current lights with them... but in the short term to add some interesting effects to the Halloween display.. It will be cool to be able to give some the characters eyes or buttons or etc.. that can change colors.. right now that is very complex using traditional lights as it takes multiple lights to generate several colors. With SS I can see using very small segments here and there all over the place to give the characters Halloween and other a much more lifelike feel and a few extras.. Santa can wink a bit better; his buttons can sparkle; the skeleton pirates can actually get mad and their eyes can literally glow a different color to express it... Jack Frost can spread his winter blizzard with a bit of twinkle and change stuff from colored to bluish to frozen... None of that is possible or is very complex and only comes out so so with traditional lights.. I think the ability of SS to change colors takes down the number of lights needed to get the same effect which then means you can focus more on the effect and less on hiding all those lights and wires. Literally 4 lights hidden to look like a button is complex; one light that changes colors hidden to look like a button or what else is much easier.

And I am sure there are a lot more things to come but that is some starting ideas I have.

- Mike
Title: Re: What will you use Smart Strings for?
Post by: travailen on February 11, 2011,
I have been thinking about making a big one of these using a smart string.

http://www.playfairtoys.com/product/Meteor-Storm-Spinning-Light-Globe

I would wrap a smart string around the perimeter of a bicycle rim (leaving a few spokes in place to keep it from becoming oval).  Drill opposing holes in the rim and attach the shaft of a DMX controlled motor to one hole and get the smart string signal through a rotating electrical connector attached to the other hole.
 
http://www.mercotac.com/html/products.html

Make a yolk to hold the motor body and the rotating connector body in alignment allowing the motor to spin the bicycle rim like the toy example. Adding a second motor to control the yolk orientation would make it even more interesting.

Rick S