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Title: (Fixed) Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on November 30, 2012,
I cannot get a show to play at all. As soon as a show goes to start the conductor goes to disconnected. I have gone out and made sure that lights are not playing and they are not. I have 1 seq in the show. Mp3 format, under 8 characters on both Mp3 and seq. Password in, show build, show scheduled. I have reformatted the Cf card and started over. If I remove power and reconnect Conductor comes back to life.
Title: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: sebjsan on December 01, 2012,
You might be having the se issues as I have been. What fm transmitter do you have.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 01, 2012,
Not using one right now
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: sebjsan on December 01, 2012,
Does the conductor work when connected to the pc through the control panel? I.e. playing a schedule in the control panel PC->Conductor->hub/LE-> Lights
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: Mickpat on December 01, 2012,
Do you have anything connected to the audio port?  If so, disconnect and try without audio. 
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 01, 2012,
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Do you have anything connected to the audio port?  If so, disconnect and try without audio. 

Have tried without and with a pair of head phones same on both. I am not 100% sure on how Conductor uses the network, but I am still wondering if something in my network is blocking it? I was finally able to get it to play one song, but after the one song it stops and says not connected. I set a show to run this morning @ 8am, had my computer off (on purpose) and nothing at all. When I booted the computer and opened the Conductor utility it said it was waiting for the show @ 8. The time was 8:20.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 01, 2012,
No matter what I do it will play 1 song then stop and say Not connected. If I start with different songs it will play the first song so it does not matter which song is first.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: dcwehw99 on December 01, 2012,
Please provide me with a little more detail on what is working now, i.e. play one show.  In particular a directory listing of the file names and their sizes.  The show and its contents and the schedule.

When you say you have re-formated the CF card and started over, do you have a directory on your hard drive that contains your .SEQ and .MP3 files?  Are you copying these files, .SHO, Password.dat, and Playlist.dat, as well or are you recreating them after only copying .SEQ and .Mp3 files?  Are the files being copied as a group (all at once) or individually?

After the one song plays and then goes to "Not Connected", what happens after say 10 seconds?  Do you notice a periodically flashing (approximately every 5 to 6 seconds) on the Conductor control panel? What is happening with the yellow and green lights on the magic jack when it goes to "Not Connected"?

Let's start with this information and then progress from here.

Denny
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 01, 2012,
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Please provide me with a little more detail on what is working now, i.e. play one show.  In particular a directory listing of the file names and their sizes.  The show and its contents and the schedule.

When you say you have re-formated the CF card and started over, do you have a directory on your hard drive that contains your .SEQ and .MP3 files?  Are you copying these files, .SHO, Password.dat, and Playlist.dat, as well or are you recreating them after only copying .SEQ and .Mp3 files?  Are the files being copied as a group (all at once) or individually?

Yes I have a directory called Conductor that contains the .seq and .mp3 files. My Steps are as follows:
1. Quick format Cf Card
2. copy seq and mp3 files to CF card (I have done both 1 and a time and also as a pair.)
3. Opened Conductor Utility
4. Select ok without inserting password
5. Select kingston Flash drive
6. Select and make password using 0207
7. Select make show
8. Name a show test
9. Select 1 sequence and 1 mp3 file
10. Select the next Seq and Mp3
11. Save show
12. Open Schedule: see attached
13. Safe remove CF card
14. Insert card in Conductor

At that point the conductor will come on stating waiting, when the first song starts it will start to count up the seconds. At the end of the song the counting will stop for about 3 seconds then will go to not connected.

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After the one song plays and then goes to "Not Connected", what happens after say 10 seconds?  Do you notice a periodically flashing (approximately every 5 to 6 seconds) on the Conductor control panel? What is happening with the yellow and green lights on the magic jack when it goes to "Not Connected"?
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I have not paid attention to that, but I will tell you that anytime that I remove the CF card with the Conductor powered on the magic jack will go off off=no lights. The only way I  can get it back is to change the port on my modem.

Thanks Denny!
Roger

Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 01, 2012,
Ok The the show actually played both songs this time before it stopped. After the first song it started the next song for about 10 beats then restarted the second song, finished that song the stopped. See attached and notice the time.

Note: The Magic Jack stayed normal after the stop. Right on solid, left blinking at different speeds.

Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rrowan on December 01, 2012,
Which song only played for 10 beats?

If its always the same song that I would delete that seq and create a new one with xLights. I had a corrupted seq file that would play a few seconds and then stop.

Rick R.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 01, 2012,
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Which song only played for 10 beats?

If its always the same song that I would delete that seq and create a new one with xLights. I had a corrupted seq file that would play a few seconds and then stop.

Rick R.

Thanks Rick,
 it actually played. It just started then restarted. It doesn't matter which order I go. Tonight was the first time that 2 songs played and I have not don one thing different.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rrowan on December 01, 2012,
Still can't hurt to delete the seq files and start new. Might be a gremlin in the seq file somewhere :)

Rick R.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: wbuehler on December 01, 2012,
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Still can't hurt to delete the seq files and start new. Might be a gremlin in the seq file somewhere :)

Rick R.

Could also be a Grinch in the file.  ;D

Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 01, 2012,
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Still can't hurt to delete the seq files and start new. Might be a gremlin in the seq file somewhere :)

Rick R.

I am doing so now.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: dcwehw99 on December 01, 2012,
A few more questions.

1. What is the order of the sequences in your show?
2. What is the mediainfo for the MP3 files?  In Explorer right click on MP3 file and select mediainfo.
3. Can you provide file sizes?  There's no limit on size but I'd like to have for reference.
4. Can you manually play each of the sequences to completion without any issues? 
5. Is it only an issue when you try to schedule the sequences?

Denny
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 01, 2012,
A few more questions.

1. What is the order of the sequences in your show?

I have only been trying 2 as a test and I have reversed the order with no change

2. What is the mediainfo for the MP3 files?  In Explorer right click on MP3 file and select mediainfo.

See Attached


3. Can you provide file sizes?  There's no limit on size but I'd like to have for reference.

One is 52.5 meg the other is 39.9 Meg


4. Can you manually play each of the sequences to completion without any issues? 

No After it stops the play selected looks active,  but will not play.

If I restart the Conuctor Utility and select play it does the same thing. Plays the first song and stops. Says Not Connected then goes to waiting.


5. Is it only an issue when you try to schedule the sequences?

Not sure what you mean, but I am not having any other issues except the stated above. If I remove the CF card with power applied to the Etd I have to move to another output on my modem.


Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: caretaker on December 02, 2012,
I am not sure if this means anything or not but I noticed that his computer and conductor are about 2 seconds different than each other, will that make a difference?
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rrowan on December 02, 2012,
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I am not sure if this means anything or not but I noticed that his computer and conductor are about 2 seconds different than each other, will that make a difference?

Not really. If the conductor is working correctly then you don't need the computer. The conductor doesn't know the computer is there or cares that its there. It will try to do its thing and only change if you tell it to change. Like update time, disable/enable schedule, manually play a show.

Rick R.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: dcwehw99 on December 02, 2012,
This morning I went back through my notes I kept during beta testing of the Conductor.  I remembered I had a problem where one of the songs I picked at random to test the MP3 player would not play it.  It would play just fine with any other media player, e.g. Real Player or Windows Media Player, but it would not play on the Conductor.  In my case I found a space/blank character in the middle of the name.  I don't see that in your case from the Mediainfo though.  The only other time I had an issue was where the MP3 file was corrupt and it wouldn't play on anything.

The files names look OK (8 characters or less).

I assume that the song will play OK on another media player, e.g. Real Player or Windows Media Player, correct?

The mediainfo for the songs looks good .  I think a sampling rate of 44 KHz is recommended but 48.0 is OK.

You might try recreating the MP3 file with Audacity and see if that makes a difference.  It appears to me to be an issue with the MP3 file.

I'm not sure what I meant by question # 5 so ignore it although the comment about switching modem ports bothers me.

Denny



Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 02, 2012,
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I am not sure if this means anything or not but I noticed that his computer and conductor are about 2 seconds different than each other, will that make a difference?

Won't sync. That's as close as it gets.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 02, 2012,
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I'm not sure what I meant by question # 5 so ignore it although the comment about switching modem ports bothers me.

Denny





Me too!

Thanks Denny I will rerun the Mp3s through Audacity an try again. Working outside right now.

To answer your question yes the media plays fine with all of the above.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: Mickpat on December 02, 2012,
Have you tried known working files from someone else? 

We should add some sample files to the wiki for people to test.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rrowan on December 02, 2012,
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Have you tried known working files from someone else? 

We should add some sample files to the wiki for people to test.

Sounds good except we don't want to put MP3s in the wiki. We don't need to be shut down :)

Rick R.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: Mickpat on December 02, 2012,
Agreed, but just a simple test MP3 that we create would be fine. 
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 02, 2012,
You may have touched on a way to see if it is an mp3 issue or a .seq issue though. I will put the seqs in with out Mp3 and see if they play. That would at least help narrow it down I would think.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 02, 2012,
Well I am still not sure. The lights are playing However this is what the Conductor Utility says.

I even opened and closed the utility and entered my password. Still shows not connected and have no active buttons.

Note: The Computer clock is counting so it is not frozen
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rrowan on December 02, 2012,
Are you sure that is a problem?

When I manually run a show without audio I have the same screen and when the seq is done the Conductor software comes back. Now when I manually run a show with audio the stop show button is still enabled.

Rick R.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 02, 2012,
The show played to completion.
Title: Re: Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 05, 2012,
Update here:

Last night I ran 3 Mp3s through audacity (Again, I might point out) Using LSP exported 3 sequences to conductor and built a show in conductor. They all ran fine,. with no issues, in the conductor utility. All of the buttons that should be active during play were active. The show, showed playing, lights looked good and show stopped smoothly. Must have been an issue with both sequences and Mp3s. One thing that I did not do was run through my Radio Transmitter. That will come tonight.... hoping for no problems there.....fingers crossed. If all goes well first show of the year tonight!!

I know WAY behind everyone else. My wife keeps reminding me of that!  ;)
Title: Re: (Fixed) Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: dcwehw99 on December 05, 2012,
Great news!

What transmitter do you have?  I've seen a couple of people with issues with one particular transmitter but nothing that was a "show stopper".

You're almost there so keep plugging away and you'll get there.

Denny
Title: Re: (Fixed) Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: Mickpat on December 05, 2012,
Nice to hear!
Title: Re: (Fixed) Conductor Disconnects on Show Start
Post by: rdebolt on December 06, 2012,
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Great news!

What transmitter do you have?  I've seen a couple of people with issues with one particular transmitter but nothing that was a "show stopper".

You're almost there so keep plugging away and you'll get there.

Denny

I did not get a chance to run last night from Conductor last night. Got home too late from work. I have 2 transmitters an EDM and a Ramsey FM100B. The Edm has been giving me some trouble, but I like the rds. Not sure how the rds will affect the conductor. My thoughts are that it won't work so I will probably use the Ramsey (my very first solder project!). We will see???