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Forum Info => Getting started with Light Animation => Topic started by: bigbuck on December 23, 2012,

Title: need help
Post by: bigbuck on December 23, 2012,
hello all,i am new to this,i want to get started on a display for next year,i am blind to this whole thing,i wanted to see if anyone is willing to help me to get started?i am looking to control regular old lights.where is the best plact to buy a controller and software about 32 to 64 channels,or should one build the controller himself,i am not even sure what all i need,i guess i'm looking for someone to take me under their wing so to speak,i have 4 megatreee in my display already, looking to make them do something other than stand there!!!!,PLEASE HELP!!!!
Title: need help
Post by: mitch09 on December 23, 2012,
Welcome. I too was in your shoes two years ago as was everyone here at one time. I had little to no soldering experience but was comfortable with computers. I started with ordering 2 Lynx dongles and 4 Lynx Express 26 channel controllers. With the help of the Other members I was up and running last year.
I guess if you feel comfortable soldering or are willing to learn as you go I say build your own. There's a nice reward when you see your hard work make "magic" for the first time.
If you don't want to take a stab at building then wait until the season is over and watch the Sale/Trade forum for members parting ways with some equipment they no longer use.

Good luck and Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: need help
Post by: rrowan on December 23, 2012,
First thing I would do is to download the software choices. The software is the hardest part along where you will spend the most time. With the software you can play with it and you don't need one piece of hardware to use it.

Free Software options:
Vixen 2.1.x http://www.vixenlights.com/releases/Vixen%202.1.1.0.zip
HLS  http://www.joehinkle.com/HLS


Paid Software options:
LSP 2.5 (Trial available) http://www.lightshowpro.com/content/
LOR S3 http://www.lightorama.com/SoftwareDownloadPage.html

For the Hardware I would look at the Lynx Express (LE) controller. Its a 16 channel controller with advance features. Come Jan to Feb we start to open up COOPs which is a group buy of the different controllers on this site. The advantage of the coop is the parts for the boards is brought in quantity so you can get the parts cheaper.

ALso you will need a Dongle to control the LE (two options here: USB dongle or the Ethernet Dongle) The USB dongle is easier to setup but has a small total number of channels. It has two different modes of software (firmware) either DMX or Pixelnet for DMX you get 512 channels to control or with Pixelnet you get 4096 channels to control. The EtherDongle is much more advance and can do 4 times the channels of the USB dongle plus it has expansion connectors to allow more features like a board where you don't need a computer to run your lights.

Here is some diagrams to help make some sense of all of this.
http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hooking_up_a_DMX_Universe

Its basically saying you need a computer (windows) then dongle then the light controllers (dimmers) then your lights.

Clear as mud?

Take your time, read the forums, read the wiki and ask as many questions as you like. This site is beginner friendly with many helpfully members.

Good luck

Rick R.
Title: Re: need help
Post by: bigbuck on December 23, 2012,
thanks for the advice but i had trouble downloading vixen 2.1,not sure whats wrong or what to do??????
Title: Re: need help
Post by: rrowan on December 23, 2012,
are you using firefox? Some versions has/had issues with downloading

Rick R.
Title: Re: need help
Post by: winwin on December 23, 2012,
Quote
i had trouble downloading vixen 2.1,not sure whats wrong or what to do??????
Having problem downloading it or installing it? here is the link to the vixen website.
http://www.vixenlights.com/
Make sure you have the .Net framework installed. A link is provided on the vixen website and on the wiki (here it is: http://www.microsoft.com/net/download)

Title: Re: need help
Post by: bigbuck on December 23, 2012,
still cannot get it to work,downloaded everything????2.1 version acts like it downloads,but when you open it it brings up a bunch of folders??????any other suggestions <rtt..
Title: Re: need help
Post by: rrowan on December 23, 2012,
I just tried it again and it works fine.

I attached the zip file.

Rick R.
Title: Re: need help
Post by: bigbuck on December 23, 2012,
after i open it where do i need to start,i'm sorry about this but i dont know where to start
Title: Re: need help
Post by: rrowan on December 23, 2012,
On youtube a member of another site a few years back did a series of videos. The first couple apply to downloading and using a different controller but after that the sequencing part works just the same way.

http://www.youtube.com/user/jaunemaillot?feature=watch

Rick R.
Title: Re: need help
Post by: bigbuck on December 23, 2012,
for some reason my computer wont let me download it,maybe it will be better to buy some software <fp.
Title: Re: need help
Post by: winwin on December 24, 2012,
What kind of computer and OS do you use?
Title: Re: need help
Post by: bigbuck on December 24, 2012,
toshiba with windows windows 7,played around eith it all day yesterday,it downloads a bunch of icons and folders that contain nothing
Title: Re: need help
Post by: rrowan on December 24, 2012,
Sounds like a firewall or anti-virus programs causing problems for you. What web browser are you using?

Even if you brought LSP you would still have to download it.

Rick R.
Title: Re: need help
Post by: bigbuck on December 24, 2012,
what should the screen look like when its finished downlaading?
Title: Re: need help
Post by: winwin on December 24, 2012,
Some folders will be empty (sequence, audio, profile...) until you start sequencing.
here is a view how my vixen folder looks like:
Title: Re: need help
Post by: bigbuck on December 24, 2012,
ok now were cookin,thats what i downloaded,where do i need to start on that page,by the way you have been most helpful,tks,also it keeps trying to open some of it in wordpad is this the correct program for it???
Title: Re: need help
Post by: caretaker on December 24, 2012,
Ok here we go:
1' Right click on your desktop in a blank area (where there are no icons) and select NEW ------> Shortcut.  This will open a new dialogue box.
2. Click on BROWSE and navigate to where your VIXEN files are IE: "C:\USERS\some_name\downloads\vixen" and select the VIXEN.exe file (it will have the picture of the reindeer beside it).
3. Click NEXT then give a name for the short cut IE: Vixen and click FINISH.

Now you should have a short cut on your desktop for Vixen, double click it and Vixen should start.
Title: Re: need help
Post by: bigbuck on December 24, 2012,
wow!!! finally got it,THAAAAAAAANK YOU!!!!! <la..,now where do i go from here,also which sequence plug in shoulsd i use?
Title: Re: need help
Post by: sjb on December 26, 2012,
with no equipment, just use the adjustable preview and add a photo of your house with drawing your strings. Works great
Title: Re: need help
Post by: duane.mosley on December 26, 2012,
i recommend you watch these.

http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?2022-Video-for-newbies-on-how-to-use-Vixen




duane