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Title: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: RJ on June 16, 2013,
Ok after a lot of work on the beta teams and my part here is the new firmware for the conductor.

Download the zip file and unzip it. Then uninstall the conductor control panel program from your computer and run the setup file to reinstall the new version. Then flash your conductor with the new firmware (hex file). Then before doing anything else read the word document. There are a number of things you need to do before it will work. the first is formating your card using new settings that must be correct for it to function. Your music will need to be converted also. Check the document it will explain it all.

I am finishing up the Slave firmware to match the new conductor firmware and should have it released before long.

Enjoy!

RJ
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: rdebolt on June 16, 2013,
Great news RJ. Can't wait to try it out! Thanks to you and the beta for the hard work!  <res.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: keitha43 on June 17, 2013,
After converting the mp3's to OGG do you have to rename the extension to MP3? The new control panel doesn't list the OGG files under Available Music when I try to create a show. Already flashed new firmware, formatted the flash card, and using the control panel from the new zip file.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: keitha43 on June 17, 2013,
The control panel modified date is 9/8/2012 so I think the old version is in the zip file.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: dcwehw99 on June 17, 2013,
Yep, that is the old version not the new one.

I'll send RJ an email.

Denny
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: dcwehw99 on June 17, 2013,
New version coming shortly.

Denny
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: animal on June 17, 2013,
This is great news RJ. I know you have alot on your plate with the academy. I'm hopeing we'll be able to work with LSP and to use this as a sorta hybrid with the slave also.  I know there is more priorities to get too before this. I can test this if need be, but it should be pretty straight forward.

                          RJ and to all the beta testers. Thank you for all you do.


                                    animal    <res.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: RJ on June 17, 2013,
If you have downloaded it please delete that file and download it again. The file was updated in the first post so uninstall the Control panel and run the setup file again to put the correct version in. It should say Conductor Control panel V3 at the top of the program window if it is correct.

Sorry for that.

RJ
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: keitha43 on June 18, 2013,
I had to make changes to the procedure to get it to work. If I used Windows Explorer to format the card in Windows XP(as per the instructions),  I could not change the allocation size to "Allocation Size as 16 kilobytes ". My only choice was "Default allocation size". Although everything acted normally creating shows and schedules and password, when I inserted the card into the conductor it just kept rebooting over and over. What I had to do was to format the card by going into "Computer Management" then "Disk Management" then I could change the allocation size to the correct one. Everything worked correctly then once I got everything created again. I don't know if it was because my card had already been programmed using last years software that caused me to need to format it differently.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: zwiller on June 18, 2013,
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This is great news RJ. I know you have alot on your plate with the academy. I'm hopeing we'll be able to work with LSP and to use this as a sorta hybrid with the slave also.  I know there is more priorities to get too before this. I can test this if need be, but it should be pretty straight forward.

                          RJ and to all the beta testers. Thank you for all you do.


                                    animal    <res.

Not sure what you mean about the slave but I was on the beta and my sequences were exported from LSP and I have no issues using them with conductor. 

Keith,
I had to do the same when I was beta testing. 
Title: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: twooly on June 18, 2013,
I believe he's talking about LSP being a master (to play movies too) and then the slave getting the sync signal from LSP
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: animal on June 18, 2013,
Yup that's exactly what I'm talking about. I don't know if this is something that LSP needs to work out . It would be just a clock or sync signal. How it would be implemented with their scheduler. I don't no. I no this isn't a priority. I just like the idea, taking the load off of LSP and the computer. The scheduler was horrible last year for me. It lagged, and just did'nt work.  I know they're rewriting the scheduler, but I can't see that happening until late summer or beginning fall. THat's to late for me,  <fp.  plus I like this way with the slave anyway.
                                                           again great job to everyone.


                                                                     animal
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: RJ on June 18, 2013,
Sorry,

Its just me so it takes time to get the stuff done. I had to get the Conductor working well first, now the slave, then the DMX code and then the Software syncing.

RJ
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: kenjreno on June 18, 2013,
I installed this on my Win8 system 64 bit, and every time I get the following error

Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: einstein2883 on June 18, 2013,
Have you updated the new firmware on the conductor yet?  If you still have an older version loaded it can do that to the Control Panel.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: kenjreno on June 18, 2013,
yes, have done that..
Setting up my WinXP Virtual Machine to try it on that..
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: RJ on June 18, 2013,
Do not know if it has been run on Win8 by anyone yet?

Has anyone else got the new stuff running yet?

RJ
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: einstein2883 on June 18, 2013,
I did beta testing with it on my laptop which has win8 64bit.  I also just installed it again and it opens fine (I'm at work so I don't have a conductor to connect too).

kenjreno:  Try unplugging/power off the conductor and see if the Control Panel works with it turned off.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: dcwehw99 on June 18, 2013,
I loaded v69 and tested it with the Conductor and it's working fine. 

Denny
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: dcwehw99 on June 18, 2013,
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I installed this on my Win8 system 64 bit, and every time I get the following error

If I remember correctly I believe you can get this error if you didn't change the allocation size of the CF card to 16K.  Make sure you've read the Conductor Operations Manual.

Denny
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: RJ on June 18, 2013,
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I loaded v69 and tested it with the Conductor and it's working fine. 

Denny

Yeah you been running it for a while    <wd..

V69 is V68 with a change to the output packet for the slave. So nothing changed from what you guys have been using in beta for a while. 

Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: dcwehw99 on June 18, 2013,
I saw that it was different & assumed that you had incorporated the changes for the slave into it.

Denny
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: kenjreno on June 20, 2013,
Got it working under xp without issues (gotta love VM's under linux)
Still crashing on my Win8 system
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: RJ on June 20, 2013,
do you have the earlier Net frameworks loaded I think maybe Win8 does not include them.

RJ
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: RJ on June 23, 2013,
Anything? anyone got it working, isn't any good, greatest thing you ever saw, etc?

RJ
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: Mickpat on June 23, 2013,
I installed the conductor software on my Windows 8 machine and it runs fine.  What version of .NET are you using?  You may need to install the older versions of the framework.

.NET Framework 4.5 is enabled by default in Windows 8. Windows 8 does not include .NET 3.5 by default, but the files for .NET 3.5 are available on the Windows 8 installation media as an optional feature.

Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: RJ on June 30, 2013,
No feedback on the system?

RJ
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: keitha43 on June 30, 2013,
Oh wait I thought we were adhering to standard testing methods. You know, waiting until showtime and discovering a problem at the last minute and then expecting a fix within 24 hours  :) 

It is supposed to be cooler next week so I guess I can try crawing around in my attic to locate some hardware to hookup and test for a few days.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: RJ on June 30, 2013,
Thanks!

RJ
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: twooly on June 30, 2013,
Ill be trying it here in a day or two to test out a July 4th blinky (not a show just fun with lights)
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: keitha43 on July 01, 2013,
Okay started testing tonight. I thought I had a problem because the show wasn't running after hooking everything together. Then I went back and checked what time I set the show to run and it was 5 minutes before I finished putting everything together. Which reminded me of discussions last year that the conductor won't start a show if it powers up after the start time, so if you have a power interruption the show won't run after power comes back on. Is this not possible in the future to make it realize the show should be running? I noticed the "Play Selected" button in the control panel only runs the show through one time. Perhaps on the phone app a checkbox to repeat the show could be created to manually repeat until manually stopping the show? Or is everyone just timing how long your shows run and just create multiple shows per day so it would start the show on the next run though?
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: twooly on July 04, 2013,
So far everything is running fine for a fun with blinky night (my version of fireworks), no issues to report yet.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: keitha43 on July 04, 2013,
Okay I have run it since the 1st and it has worked fine for me. Music stayed in sync for me. Show started and stopped on time. Guess I will buy a computer battery backup to get past the problem caused if power momentarily goes out after the start time for the show. They are only about 55.00. It would be cool in the future if the etherdongle firmware and the conductor firmware could somehow be combined. Right now I have 2 conductors but keep 1 flashed with etherdongle firmware for testing my sequencing live from my programing software. And also to see if all my hardware is plugged in correctly which I believe that capability will be in a future enhancement to the conductor. I was curious why when I reformat both flash cards and copy the same files to both cards in the same manor, the Conductor Control Panel sees the filenames in different orders. One has them all alphabetically and the other one doesn't. It is not a problem since you can move your selections up or down but it is curious.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: RJ on July 05, 2013,
Good to hear!

It is the order the fat table stores it and there seems to be no relation to the order you copy, should ever come since you one run one conductor in a show. The others are slave and do not report to the cp.

RJ
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: JonB256 on July 11, 2013,
Anybody else seen it "connect" to the Conductor, display the contents for about 4 seconds and look perfectly normal, then go back to "Not Connected" status?

With the V3 Control Panel open, I can power cycle the V69 flashed conductor and watch this.

Files appear to be correct. Password has been double checked. It lets me create a Show and Schedule on the Flash Card.

I am using "NONE.OGG" instead of a real music file. I'll try changing that.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: einstein2883 on July 11, 2013,
This can happen if you are connecting to it over wireless or a network switch that doesn't like network broadcasts.  How you connecting to the conductor? Wireless? Direct? With a switch?
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: keitha43 on July 11, 2013,
It will also do that if when you don't format it with "Allocation size as 16 kilobites" Here is what I had to do in Win XP to get it to format correctly-
"I had to make changes to the procedure to get it to work. If I used Windows Explorer to format the card in Windows XP(as per the instructions),  I could not change the allocation size to "Allocation Size as 16 kilobytes ". My only choice was "Default allocation size". Although everything acted normally creating shows and schedules and password, when I inserted the card into the conductor it just kept rebooting over and over. What I had to do was to format the card by going into "Computer Management" then "Disk Management" then I could change the allocation size to the correct one. Everything worked correctly then once I got everything created again. I don't know if it was because my card had already been programmed using last years software that caused me to need to format it differently."
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: JonB256 on July 11, 2013,
From a switch. It has worked before (with the older conductor firmware and software) with this setup.

When I first start the V3 Control Panel and enter my correct password, then power up the conductor, it sees the Conductor and the Files just like it should. Then disconnects.

When I do the same, but deliberately enter the wrong password before power up, it STILL looks good, then disconnects.

Logically, this makes me think the password function is faulty.  Any password rules I'm forgetting?  Mine is 8 characters long, 5 alpha and 3 numeric. The V3 Control Panel created the file for me.

Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: JonB256 on July 11, 2013,
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It will also do that if when you don't format it with "Allocation size as 16 kilobites" Here is what I had to do in Win XP to get it to format correctly-
"I had to make changes to the procedure to get it to work. If I used Windows Explorer to format the card in Windows XP(as per the instructions),  I could not change the allocation size to "Allocation Size as 16 kilobytes ". My only choice was "Default allocation size". Although everything acted normally creating shows and schedules and password, when I inserted the card into the conductor it just kept rebooting over and over. What I had to do was to format the card by going into "Computer Management" then "Disk Management" then I could change the allocation size to the correct one. Everything worked correctly then once I got everything created again. I don't know if it was because my card had already been programmed using last years software that caused me to need to format it differently."

Keith, I saw your earlier post and did reformat at 16K. I'm running windows 8 and was able to pick that value readily.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: keitha43 on July 11, 2013,
With everything at 8 characters or less, this is what is required,  1. a password, 2. a show, 3. a schedule. By 8 characters I mean not only sequence and music files but also show and schedule files names have this limit. One thing to check is to see if the program can see your oog files. The first post accidentally had an older version program and could not see my oog files. The correct program can.  The correct program should have a modified date of 6/17/13. And of course use the firmware v69.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: doubleeaz on December 01, 2013,
Is there an updated Android App for v3?  I tried the one on the Wiki and doesn't show the data correctly.
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: RJ on December 01, 2013,
Not yet.

RJ
Title: Re: New Conductor Firmware for 2013
Post by: sittinguphigh on December 03, 2013,
Would I would correct to assume that CPP means conductor panel program?