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Hardware => Lynx Smart String => Topic started by: sittinguphigh on December 02, 2013,

Title: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: sittinguphigh on December 02, 2013,
 
Dear  Mort
the 12V TM1804 nodes did not change, it is the same as before.
the 12V WS2811 has the LDO, which takes lots of power, so the current is much higher than before.
the led has the same current ,which is about 60ma/3.2V
thanks and best regards
Ray
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: DanHouston on December 02, 2013,
So this conflicts with the other thread?
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: Steve Gase on December 02, 2013,
There are 3 string types altogether:
Was Ray's response directly addressing any or all of the above?
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: sittinguphigh on December 02, 2013,
I emailed Ray back for clarification.
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: keitha43 on December 02, 2013,
Now that is a funny auto correct. Ray is being turned to calcium. I know the first generation ip68 nodes Ray sent a year ago last January work fine at 84 nodes. I don't know what the specs were for them back then.

Sent from my Thunderbolt using Tapatalk 2.

Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: sittinguphigh on December 03, 2013,
Latest email from Ray.

Me:
08:55 Dec 02,2013

Hello Ray

Do the TM1804 strings use 0.3 watts pre node?

Thanks

Mort
From DLA


Ray wu:
16:38 Dec 02,2013
Dear Mr.Morton,
yes, the TM1804 string use 0.3W per nodes.
thanks and best regards
Ray
ray@rita-light.com
 
 
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: zwiller on December 03, 2013,
Spent most of the morning chatting with Ray:
TM 1804 is .3W and WS2811 is .6W and he confirmed the WS2811 is brighter.  Seems fair and reasonable to me.  If you want the additional output of the 2811 you need to limit them/power inject. 

Mort, heads up Ray does not have the square rear entry 1804 nodes we like in stock and does not expect them in soon.  I have been waiting almost 2 months...  He is making some with the same design in 2811 though.  I wimped out and changed my order to the typical node in 1804 since they were in stock.  He promised to ship today. 
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: bassmants on December 03, 2013,
The 2811's I used I just kept to 50 per ssc and they look great.
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: arw01 on December 03, 2013,
It's funny difference in power between the nodes and the flex string.  I have 128 sets of 3 on 41 feet of WS2811 flex strip (lights three pixels per node) and the amps at full white is well under 4 amps.

Alan
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: CaptainMurdoch on December 03, 2013,
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The 2811's I used I just kept to 50 per ssc and they look great.

Technicolor or other?

If Technicolor, then can you provide a little more info?   :)
- how many hours have they been running?
- are you using just the primary Red/Green/Blue or mixed colors and whites?
- stock 12V ws2811 50-node or something else?
- when did you receive yours?
- running on hubs & SSC's or something else?  (if something else, then what voltage?)
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: bassmants on December 03, 2013,
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The 2811's I used I just kept to 50 per ssc and they look great.

Technicolor or other?

If Technicolor, then can you provide a little more info?   :)
- how many hours have they been running?
- are you using just the primary Red/Green/Blue or mixed colors and whites?
- stock 12V ws2811 50-node or something else?
- when did you receive yours?
- running on hubs & SSC's or something else?  (if something else, then what voltage?)

Technicolor ws2811's.  I picked them up here in the for sale a couple weeks ago. 100 sets and cut to 50.
I ran them about 24 hours on v3 test firmware in my living room.  Mounted 100 on a Megatree star.  50 per ssc.  I am running them on ssc v4s through active hub.  I am running all color combos, but mostly red, blues, greens and some all whites.  I will keep an eye on them, kinda scared of them now.
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: CaptainMurdoch on December 03, 2013,
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I will keep an eye on them, kinda scared of them now.

I think we're in the same boat.  Do I set them out in the yard and have them fail tomorrow or keep them in the dining room (or garage) and have them continue working fine. :)  Or maybe I'll set the tree up during the day on Christmas Eve with a big bow on it and hope it lasts through the evening.
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: bassmants on December 03, 2013,
Mine have been running 5-6 hours a night since Saturday.
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: keitha43 on December 03, 2013,
It seems rdebolt has had bad problems with the TM1804 version of the Technicolor nodes. So much so that Ray is having to replace all his nodes with WS2811 versions. The WS2811 version is undergoing a design change to hopefully improve the problems they have been having with that version. It seems many people are trying to lower their voltage to around 8 volts to see if it will help with voltage regulators overheating on the WS2811 versions as a work around.
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: Made2Rock on December 04, 2013,
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Spent most of the morning chatting with Ray:
TM 1804 is .3W and WS2811 is .6W and he confirmed the WS2811 is brighter.  Seems fair and reasonable to me.  If you want the additional output of the 2811 you need to limit them/power inject. 

Mort, heads up Ray does not have the square rear entry 1804 nodes we like in stock and does not expect them in soon.  I have been waiting almost 2 months...  He is making some with the same design in 2811 though.  I wimped out and changed my order to the typical node in 1804 since they were in stock.  He promised to ship today.

zwiller,

  If Ray told you the ws2811 uses .6w and the 78l05 that is powering the chip can only handle .75w BUT with all the plastic. My guess is this is what is causing these LEDs to go bad so fast.

Joe
Title: Re: Update from Ray on the TM1804 and the WS2811 strings.
Post by: rdebolt on December 05, 2013,
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It seems rdebolt has had bad problems with the TM1804 version of the Technicolor nodes. So much so that Ray is having to replace all his nodes with WS2811 versions. The WS2811 version is undergoing a design change to hopefully improve the problems they have been having with that version. It seems many people are trying to lower their voltage to around 8 volts to see if it will help with voltage regulators overheating on the WS2811 versions as a work around.

Keith you are correct, I just want to be clear on the replacements though. Mine will NOT be Technicolor.... I'm done testing! LOL.... My replacements will be Regular 2811 nodes.