DiyLightAnimation
Hardware => Lynx Zeus => Topic started by: tombmatt on November 24, 2014,
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Have a 16 & 8 on ether dongle. Have Fpp when I test lights select red on all nodes and get green select blue get red and green gets blue now it gets weird the 8 is blue when 16 is red and so on white is white on them all. There are a few nodes in the 8 that are different colors. My question is this in pic chips programming?
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You need to go into the setup utility and tell the Zeus the correct color order.
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I tried all color orders none would match. Reprogrammed chip. Set to rgb across both Zeus. 16 came up red - green, green- blue, blue is red as run off xlights/nutcracker running bars only one color. On the Zeus 8 one string is rgb and one string has eight nodes rgb but the rest grb.
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Bought the lights from Ray this summer on one order.
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I have the same problem between strings and flex. Tried the Utility changes but they didn't help. Not sure if the utility has been updated since last year.
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I don't understand how my order (just made a few months ago) of 25 stands of lights from the wiki could have different colors. I could maybe understand if I ordered lights from different places/vendors but this was one order for 25 strands 50 nodes off the wiki link. I thought they were rgb and would all run the same. if they were all the same gbr brg etc it would be allrignt but 16 running gbr on the zues 16 and 6 running rgb on the zues8 and 1 running gbr with a few nodes something else it does not seem possible. both boards programed at the same time and the 16 and 8 are different colors when the utility is set at rgb???? I really don't understand it.
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Hey Tom,
I did some light reading (about 16 pages for one topic) from the Zeus Beta board and I need you to test something for me.
Change the Model to 3 Channel and see if that makes any difference with your color order. The Beta team noted that certain color orders didn't work with different modes. I know that was older (un released) firmware but it can't hurt to try.
Thanks
Rick R.
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By chance did you check your wiring from the Zeus to the first node. It sometimes gets changed at the factory and it has given many headaches.pigtails also. They seem to ship a few different colored pigtails
Just an idea
Joe
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Ok I will try that. I did get the 16 to run in the right order it ended being brg worked on it. The 8 is still crazy. Have to reprogram the chips again. Have one string that is mostly one color but have like eight nodes that are blue (others red) but one node is purple.
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We'll I wired all 24 strings exactly the same the 3wire I bought from Ray was red green blue and the pigtails were brown ye low/green blue the strings were red green blue so it was re to red to brown blue all and green green/yellow green .
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How can I get 1 string to change color order. I got the 16 change but it was all strings. I'm afraid the one string is bad with it being multi colors when I try to program
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hmm pigtails have caused a lot of members problems. try temp hardwire (use electric tape) and see if that helps.
Rick R.
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If all of the nodes are flashing in multi-color during the programming operation, try removing the first two nodes from the string and see what it does.
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Okay tried3channel string 6strings are rgb string 8 is gbr and string 4 is dead. will chase that later. So mostly 3channel works . Problem channel 8 start address is 4097 (1staddressis513). I tried going to 8 on the string number instead of all and got "start channel to high 1 - 4093 allowed
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Okay just had thought. Could my problem with string 8 be that it's start address is outside the range limits rj set in the utility?
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Thine they are all flashing white since I went to 3 channel string. Except string 4 whichis still dead, reprogrammed that chip swaped strings. Should I try to swap chips to see if dead string follows chip?
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Remember that you only have 4096 channels to work with per PixelNet universe. If you set the start channel above that then the controller simply will not function. If you need more than 4096 channels, then you need to start a new universe and that starts the hardware address back from 1 again. Also remember that no controller can bridge a universe.
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Channel 1 - 512 on USB dongle. 513 - 4608? On etherdongle that is what vixen 3 gives me. It 2 separate universes from what I understand. Course I could be wrong I have been lot of times already. The Dix and e1.31 are separate universes right?
update. The xml file that i get when i export my sequences gives 1universe with dmx channels 1 - 512 and e1.31 513 - 4608. To get any lights to flash (playing sequence) i have to set channel 1 on the zues to 513, my understanding is that the dmx universe runing through the lynx usb dongle is seperate from the universe runing through the etherdongle.
Joe. I don't have a tester. Have to use xlights/nutcracker or vixen.
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On v3 I found a couple of posts that helped me set up the ETD. Each 512 channels are listed as their own universe. Not that it may be totally correct but its works for me. Being that you are using the ETD you can take the dmx dongle out of play by using the ETD only . I started the direction as you but found it much easier to just use the ETD. As far as the strings possibly being bad, do you have some sort of device that you can test the strings without any equipment involved. I use the th2010 pixel controller from ray which is now upgraded to the the th2014 I use it to test every string . Before I start to use the strings for anything. Hopefully some of this info will help you. I know what to do but terrible at at explaining. I am mechanical not technical.
Joe
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With the etd you would specify 1-4096. Even though they overlap with the DMX hardware wise that is not a problem, You just would not use any addresses less than 512 for your pixel stuff. For example if you are using an active hub for your pixels you tell it that it is universe 1 or channels 1-4096. Like many of us you can have the active hub convert the 1st 512 channels to dmx protocol and send that out the dmx out jack. What you need to understand is that 1-512 is still going to all the pixelnet devices. Most of us then do not program any pixels for 1-512, but you can and if you have a dmx device with channel 1-16 and also have pixelnet devices configured for 1-16 they will both light up and be controlled identically. The dmx conversion does not remove any pixelnet channels only converts the designated 512 channels which can be any 512 channel block (dmx universe). Which block is converted is controlled by the jumper pins.
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Jneland
i dont have an active hub only zues and dmx hardware. E xported vix3 sequences 1-512 is dmx 513 - 4608 is e1.31. If i set the zues to start anywhere other than 513 start channel i get no lights. Put start channel 513 and i get lights cant. So the problem seems to be the last string. I can rest zues 16 to bgr to get lites to sequence, zues 8 (running after off of the 16) runs rgb except for string 8. It runs grb or bgr . And since it's start address is 4096 i cant program it. The utility limits start address's to 4093 (i think that was the # the error msg gve me).
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Food for thought,
I have none of this hardware, but what I have is an Arduino sending out a signal to a lynx splitter and injecting 12 volts at the splitter feeding a SSC, the power supply and Arduino are running on different power source. I was having all kinds of problems. Then I hooked up the negative from the Arduino and the negative from the power source and all my problems went away.
just food for thought.
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And since it's start address is 4096 i cant program it. The utility limits start address's to 4093 (i think that was the # the error msg gve me).
Check out my reply on the other forum, I think that will solve your issue, if so you can report back there and here. If it doesn't solve the issue I don't want to muddy the waters here with irrelevant info.
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isn't 4097 in the second universe?
Rick R.
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He isn't overlapping the first DMX and PixelNet universes, so absolute channel 4097 is in the first PixelNet universe as relative channel 3585 (4097 - 512). In the Zeus config he needs to use the relative channel numbers not the absolute channel numbers.
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Tombmatt,
As the usb dongel is for dmx and the ed is for pixelnet. The software that is driving them is set for device 1 for channels 1 thru 512 and device 2 is setup for channels 513 thru 4608. Rememder each device starts at 1. Thats why when you set the zeus to 513 it works. So if you thought you needed to set the zeus to 4097 you really need to set it to 4097 -512 as device 1 (usb dongel) has the first 512 and device 2 (ed) start address is 1 on the device and 513 in the software. Each device has it own univerce and their start address is always 1.
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that's okay all my problems are solved now I can not get anylights on any channel have reflashed pics 3 times tried everything to get the utility to flash lights and nothing think I will just give it a break. Thanks for your help.
Tom
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have zues 16 working properly just addressing issues. zues 8 have color problem solved had to program it to GBR to match zues 16 RGB. But sting 4 on the zues does not work at all. have changed the mosfet. did not help. the 330 ohm resistor reads 329. have 12 volts on the light connection block. it isn't the pigtails cause I can swap lights from a different position and the lights stay the same line 4 dead. have reflashed pic numerous times have swaped pics. what else can it be?
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Again I am not the best at explaining but I would recommend possibly retouching up the solder joints as I just ran into a similar situation. I gave an express to my son in law, he soldered it up last year and it worked great . He pulled it out this year and 2 channels didn't work..I had him send to to me and did the norm, replace triac, swap pic etc. Nothing as a last resort I reflowed the connection blocks darn if that didn't fix the 2 channels. The solder looked good originally but it could have been brittle from over heating or not flowed good enough (guessing) Long story short try to touch up solder joints on #4 . The only other thing would be to check the actual connection block. Maybe there is a flaw in it. You have 12v but you need data also 12V, ground, and data. I think that is the correct lingo. I hope that helps you just ideas
Joe