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Fun => The Porch => Topic started by: rrowan on February 20, 2015,

Title: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: rrowan on February 20, 2015,
So I have been looking at different things of late (3d Printer and software, Electronic Circuit design, DIY PCBs, CNC, etc) and some of the free stuff (my favorite price) keeps coming back to Autodesk software (who would of thought that 30 years ago when dos version of AutoCAD cost more that my yearly salary). The other part that makes me feel old is the series is called 123D. I keep thinking of Lotus 123 instead of Autodesk software (which they also host Instructables) like TinkerCad, 123d Design, 123D Circuit, 123D Catch, 123D Make, 123D Sculpt+, Meshmixer, Sandbox. So strange how things have changed. Btw, I don't work for Autodesk or have stock in them or anything related to them besides using AutoCAD at work. I am just a poor state work that works at Rowan University in Glassboro NJ.

Rick R.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: KeithTarpley on February 20, 2015,
Greetings,,,

Happy Virtual Birthday!   lol...

Keith

Older (even virtually) beats the alternative...

Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: twooly on February 20, 2015,
Lotus 123 oh how I don't miss that one bit.  Lotus on OS2 yikes, I'm having my support nightmares come back.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: rrowan on February 20, 2015,
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Lotus 123 oh how I don't miss that one bit.  Lotus on OS2 yikes, I'm having my support nightmares come back.

LOL how about PFS:Write or Dbase Q&A (database)

Wordstar brings back bad memory of my older sister crying. She spent a full day typing in it and when she went to save the program crash and she lost everything (she is not a cryer either)

I did have a Zenith Computer that had Windows 1.0 on it. A buggy file manager or at least it try to be one. I do wish I kept the 5.25 floppy disk the program installer was on. Oh well.

Rick R.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: tbone321 on February 20, 2015,
WordStar, WOW, what a piece of crap.  I preferred WordPerfect but you kinda needed to know what you were doing and how to read the formatting characters when some questionable edits would trash the formatting.  It was in no way a WYSIWYG processor. 
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: mac50 on February 21, 2015,
  as for being old, i learned fortran (among others) using punch cards on a ibm 360
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: tbone321 on February 21, 2015,
LOL, Fortran and Cobol on the same machine with punch cards. 
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: RJ on February 21, 2015,
Bunch of young pups!   <fp.

I did even have dos or unix, my first computer was programmed with toggles in hexidecimal processor op codes.  <wd..

RJ

Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: n1ist on February 21, 2015,
Hex?  Newcomer...  I used to do Octal, which was natural for DEC's PDP and newer Intel 8080...  My first computer was 1802-based.  Now that's an odd architecture.

/mike
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: RJ on February 21, 2015,
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My first computer was 1802-based.  Now that's an odd architecture.
/mike

Same here! Cosmic Elf baby all the way!

RJ
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: smeighan on February 22, 2015,
I started programming in 1972 on an ho 2116, 2100, 21mx. I programmed an Intel 4004 (predecessor to 8008), toggled programs into Altair and imsai computers. College used PDP 8's. Had a trs80, a Sinclair portable, first hand held calculator, ibm 26 and 29 punched card machines, Novell networks, yep things have changed. Biggest change is probably smart phones. What hasn't changed? How business views IT, how IT views business


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Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: rrowan on February 22, 2015,
LOL this has turned into a fun topic,

Does anyone remember the days when we used Vixen 2.1.x without having the awesome ability of xLights or Nutcracker?
 ;D

How about when RJ created the Grinch Controller?

Rick R.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: onesmoothhead on February 24, 2015,
I am a vixen 2.1 I Remember the USB port issue and I would sit or and make sure I did not assign an second port to the hub or the whole show would crash.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: chrisatpsu on February 25, 2015,
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My first computer was 1802-based.  Now that's an odd architecture.

/mike


I came along later...   My first computer was Motorola 6809 based...

Cassette Tapes baby!!!
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: tbone321 on February 26, 2015,
Yea, my buddy had an Atari 400 with a cassette tape deck to load software.  Man did that take forever to load.  They attempted to copy protect them but my high fidelity 3 head cassette deck had no problem duplicating them, copy protection and all.  When I bought my Atari 800XL I also bought the 5 1/4 floppy drive and a dot matrix tractor fed printer.  I was high tech! 
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Post by: packetbob on February 26, 2015,
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My first computer was 1802-based.  Now that's an odd architecture.
/mike

Same here! Cosmic Elf baby all the way!

RJ

Comic Elf... Woah, that does bring back memories... I didn't actually build one but remember following the articles in Popular Electronics (had a subscription at the time) trying to figure out what a computer processor actually was....

Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: jhoybs on February 27, 2015,
I'm not as old (mid 40's now), but I still laugh because as a teenager, I ran an Atari BBS off floppies with a 300 baud modem.   <fp.   At the time, it was pretty cool...
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: caretaker on February 28, 2015,
My first computer was an Commodore 64 that I put together myself. Someone gave me the main board and I was able to buy a keyboard and power supply at a ham swap. I built a clear acrylic case for it then picket a monitor and floppy drive. After a couple years I picked up a 2400 buad modem a 20meg Lt. Kernal hard drive and ran a  BBS on it for 3 years using Image software. Yep those were the good old days.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: arw01 on February 28, 2015,
I love the stories that come out every year about seniors in highschool have never seen a brick phone, don't know what a vinyl album is etc.

Not from the days of punch cards and individual magnets wrapped in wire in a matrix to store 1K of data at a time!  Do recall sitting down at an Apple II and teaching myself Pascal as the first language with the little turtle, once in a while a teacher would come by to see what I was upto, but none of them knew how to do what I was teaching myself.

Got paid by a couple of magazines as a high school student for articles or services anyone remember the Open Apple newsletter, I made the Britannica style index for that for years.  I do miss the ProDos in the apple II scene and the Dos Bros if I recall their wacky adds.

Endless hours programming in Orca/M assembly, playing Origin in monochrome orange and thinking this is just the Ultimate!

Skipped the sinclair, but did have a Ti 99/4a with the cassette drive..  Had the Apple IIc until a few years ago, just got tired of storing it.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: rrowan on February 28, 2015,
Hmm,

My brother brought a Commodore Vic 20 with tape drive.
I brought my first computer out of high school an Apple IIe Professional model (Duo 5.25 drives, 140kb each) green monitor
Next was a PC 386dx2 with a Hard Drive, strangely it had a server tower, lots of internal bays (Still have the invoice sheet - at work in my desk)
Had two Sinclair to play with

Had 300 baud to 1200 baud modems. I can still hear the connection tones.
I did have an acoustic modem

Rick R.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: tbone321 on February 28, 2015,
My first IBM clone was a 33Mhz 386 with a 200MB IDE HDD, 1M of RAM, both a 5 1/4 and a high density 3 1/2 floppy drive and a Super VGA card with a whopping 64K of RAM.   At the time, the average PC was a 16MHZ 286 with 256K ram, a 40MB RLL drive, a CGA graphics card,  and a 5 1/4 floppy drive.  I was a real power user at the time and that machine did cost some serious $$$$$$.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: caretaker on March 01, 2015,
Oh boy memories of my first PC a 386SX with a 512k of ram which I quickly replaced with a 386DX then a Pentiuim 3. When I moved last Feb. to my new place I found a bunch of old receipts for computer stuff like $468 for 16 Megs or ram, $180 for a 420 meg hard drive. Prices where crazy back then.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: tbone321 on March 01, 2015,
Yea, the prices were high but it was fun back then.  So many new and different devices and when a new processor came out, you could really see the difference in speed, almost night and day from the previous ones.  I used to live at the computer shows back then.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: rrowan on March 01, 2015,
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Yea, the prices were high but it was fun back then.  So many new and different devices and when a new processor came out, you could really see the difference in speed, almost night and day from the previous ones.  I used to live at the computer shows back then.

I Totally agree. It was a lot more fun and I do miss the shows and flee markets which around here are totally gone.
I think the older games were more fun.

Rick (still recovering from the flu) R.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: tbone321 on March 01, 2015,
Yea, there is not much need for the shows anymore.  You can get close to the same prices on line or at Tiger Direct which is about 20 minutes away from me.  There is also really nothing new anymore in the PC world.  At the shows, there was always something new that was really cool or deals that were hard to resist.  I bought all of my laser printers at the shows.  An HP2, HP3 and a HP4.  All were used but back then, they were built to last.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: CaptainMurdoch on March 01, 2015,

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An HP2, HP3 and a HP4.  All were used but back then, they were built to last.

I still have a working HP LaserJet 4L sitting on my desk at home that is going on 20 years old in a month or two.  I remember buying it to print resumes when I was looking for a job back in 1995.  I am considering taking it out of service but that is only because of the cost of the next toner cartridge it will need soon.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: tbone321 on March 01, 2015,
If we were to have has this conversation a few months ago, I would have sent you the unused one that I had. 
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: lrhorer on March 05, 2015,
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Skipped the sinclair, but did have a Ti 99/4a with the cassette drive..

Yeah, I also skipped the Altair, IMSAI, and the Sinclair, but after the TI came out, I was able to save enough pennies to buy the 99/4a with an expansion chassis and - oh my gawd - a Floppy Drive!!  Of course I also had a blazingly fast 300 Baud modem.  Fancy bugger - I didn't even need to place a phone receiver in a cradle.
Title: Re: Feeling Old (again)
Post by: lrhorer on March 05, 2015,
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I remember buying it to print resumes when I was looking for a job back in 1995.
Believe it or not, I haven't looked for a job since 1975.