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Hardware => Lynx MR16 / 16 CH DC Controller => Topic started by: joshuashu on September 21, 2009,

Title: program start adress in LSP
Post by: joshuashu on September 21, 2009,
ok i need to know how do you program the start adress for the MR 16 in LSP?  it works as channels 1- 16 and i want it to be 97 - 112.  Thanks for the info


joshua
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: rrowan on September 21, 2009,


set channel 1 in LSP to level 97

either have the sequence long enough to power on/off jumper switch or put it in a loop

Rick R.
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: joshuashu on September 21, 2009,
so under the dmx tab set it to 97 to 256?  i did this and now it doesn't control the lights at all. when i switch to jumper to program and turn the power on the lights all just come on is this correct? how long do i let go? in the wiki it says 3 seconds is this correct?

thanks

joshua
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: WWNF911 on September 21, 2009,
Set up a small sequence in LSP to turn on only channel 1 to a level of 97 intensity (97 out of 255) like Rick said. The sequence needs to be long enough to allow you to set the start channel. Move the program / operate jumper to program. Start the sequence and turn on power for the MR16. I recommand you use a power strip. Then after about 3 good long seconds cycle the power OFF. put the jumper back to operate and test channel 97.  Thats it!  :)

Leon

Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: WWNF911 on September 21, 2009,
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so under the dmx tab set it to 97 to 256?  i did this and now it doesn't control the lights at all. when i switch to jumper to program and turn the power on the lights all just come on is this correct? how long do i let go? in the wiki it says 3 seconds is this correct?

thanks

joshua

The scenario of all lights coming on is a sign that something is not correct. (usually no DMX) You will find that when this happens that they will all go out after a bit as well. For instance if you turn power on to the board, I think while the computer or more importantly while the Dongle is off you might see this behavior.
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: ThaiWay on September 21, 2009,
I noticed last night that powering up my MR16 board with no Cat5 plugged into it, all the lights came on.  As soon as I plugged in the Dongle cable, they went off.  I guess I'm not alone.

John
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: joshuashu on September 21, 2009,
done this like 3 times now. still nothing. it still wants to work on channel one.  i dont get it?  Thanks again for the great info.  this could be just missing something but i dont know?


Thanks

joshua

edit..  when i set the jumper to program and turn the power on the lights all come on and kinda do a little flicker and never go off.
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: joshuashu on September 22, 2009,
ok i have tried this like 10 times now. it will not work on channels 97-112 .  when i change the channel back to 97 and the intensity back to 0 -255 and  play the sequence blue or what should be channel 99 comes on for a little bit and then fades down.

It will control the lights fine if its  programmed 1-16.

if i unplug the cat 5 while in program mode the lights go off but when i plug the cat 5 in while in program mode they all come on and kinda do a little flicker.
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: WWNF911 on September 22, 2009,
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ok i have tried this like 10 times now. it will not work on channels 97-112 .  when i change the channel back to 97 and the intensity back to 0 -255 and  play the sequence blue or what should be channel 99 comes on for a little bit and then fades down.

It will control the lights fine if its  programmed 1-16.

if i unplug the cat 5 while in program mode the lights go off but when i plug the cat 5 in while in program mode they all come on and kinda do a little flicker.

Lets try this again as I haven't used LSP at all.

You said you have Vixen.
Then try the same procedure however, when you create your small sequence, at the top "Just" above and to the right of the play button is the test channels button. Have your MR16's power supply hooked up to a power strip. Go to the test channels button and highlight channel one, then use the slider to move the intensity to 97. with the MR16 board still off move the program / operate jumper to program and turn on the MR16 board/ power supply. Wait a good long 3 seconds then  turn power off. Move the jumper back to operate. Turn the MR16 supply back on and now in test channels, uncheck channel 1 and now turn on / check channel number 97. Your MR16 light attached to channel 1 of the board should now light when you turn on 97.

Leon
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: joshuashu on September 22, 2009,
Tried all of this. when i go to turn it back on and change the channel number to 97 channel one is lit.   when in program mode all 3 lights are lit and kinda flicker. so i know it is receiving DMX, it just wont accept the program channel?
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: WWNF911 on September 22, 2009,
Sorry Joshua.

Here's a link to the procedure in case I left something out. If this still doesn't work then you can change the starting address yourself if you have a PIC programmer. If not, there are a nuber of individuals here at DLA that will do it for you. If you'd like to wait, I'll be back from traveling on Oct. 12th. and I can do it for you then. I trust someone will step up and either help you or program it for you before then.  :)

http://diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual_MR16#Programming_and_Operation_of_the_MR-16

Leon
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: WWNF911 on September 22, 2009,
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Tried all of this. when i go to turn it back on and change the channel number to 97 channel one is lit.   when in program mode all 3 lights are lit and kinda flicker. so i know it is receiving DMX, it just wont accept the program channel?

Just re-read... If you finish and move the jumper back to operate and turn it back on you say you select 97 and channel one on the board is lit?? Thats what it should do. Maybe I read it wrong. Thats what we are trying to achieve. When we go into your show sequences and you turn on channel number 97 the MR 16/s attached to channel one on the MR16 board should be on.
It doesn't matter what happens during program mode as long as the correct light comes on when you are done programming the start channel.

Leon
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: joshuashu on September 22, 2009,
guess i posted that wrong.  i meant that channel one is lit because in vixen channel one is selected. not channel one on the board. if i go to channel 97 nothing.  Thanks so much for all your help Leon i really appreciate it.  I will try to get a hold of  joneslights. he has a pic programmer so i should be able to borrow it.   I was thinking of picking one up, which one should i get the 2 or 3? i found some on ebay for about 45.00


Thanks so much i really appreciate the help.  :)
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: tbone321 on September 22, 2009,
You can get the Pickit-2 directly from the company for less than that.  I just got mine a few days ago. 
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: joshuashu on September 22, 2009,
well using vixen and programing per the wiki. i found the channels . it sent them to 247-  262? any ideas why? this is weird.
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: rrowan on September 22, 2009,
just my guess but you were using percentage and not actual levels when you were able to change the start address.

Have you tried in Vixen to use the "test channel" function to set the start address?

on the Vixen main screen its the icon that looks like 3 boxes with checkmarks on it.

Once that screen is open just select channel #1 and set the level to 97 ( of course make sure you are using levels and not percentage)

Rick R.
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: joshuashu on September 22, 2009,
Tried this like 3 times.  it alwasys stays programmed to channel one. just to be sure. the jumper goes on middle and right pins correct? should i try another cat 5 cable? 
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: Sly on September 22, 2009,
One other thing I thought of is do you have the newest version of the firmware for the MR16 controller. The original versions of the firmware for the SSR4's and MR16 controllers had some problems with programming the start address. There is new firmware the fixes this problem.
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: rrowan on September 22, 2009,
Hi Joshua,

I really have a feeling we are all throwing darts in a dark room and missing the target.

So lets start over.

Start up Vixen
1 - Click on New even sequence and then Click on Vixen Standard sequence
2 - Click next three times to get to the channel count screen and set it to 512 channels
2 - Click on create it button
3 - give it a name

Sequence screen
1 - Click on attached plugins
2 - Select Enttec DMX USB Pro under Available Plugins and then click on the Use  button
3 - Select the Enttec DMX USB Pro on the right panel (Plugins in Use)
4 - Click Plugin Setup button
5 - Select the correct serial port from the drop down (should be something besides com1) - If no other option is here then you didn't install the FTDI drivers.
6 - Baud rate select 115200
7 - Leave the other settings as is and click on the OK button
8 - Click Done button
9 - Click on the Test Channel icon (two boxes with check marks next to it)

Test Channel
Select Channel 1 and set the slider to whatever start channel you like (ie: 97)

Now leave that as is and now move over to the MR-16
Try to set the start address
1 - With the MR-16 off - Move the jumper to program side.
2 - Power up the MR-16 and wait at least 3 second and then turn off
3 - Move the jumper back to the operate side.


Test to see if the MR-16 accepted the new address.
Turn MR-16 back on.

Back to the Test Channel Screen
1 - Unselect channel 1
2 - If you are feeling lucky scroll down to channel 97 and select it and then move the slider the full range and see if the LEDs change in brightness.

If the MR-16 still works on Channel 1 then the pic will need to be re-flashed. See the wiki for the firmware.

Hope that helps

Rick R.
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: RJ on September 22, 2009,
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well using vixen and programing per the wiki. i found the channels . it sent them to 247-  262? any ideas why? this is weird.

likely because LSP sends 0 - 100 % not 0-255 values if you take 255 * .97 (97%) = 247

The controller is working fine you have an issue doing it with LSP. Can LSP be set to use 0-255 values? I am not that versed in it yet.  But expect to learn next year all about it.

RJ
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: joshuashu on September 22, 2009,
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well using vixen and programing per the wiki. i found the channels . it sent them to 247-  262? any ideas why? this is weird.

likely because LSP sends 0 - 100 % not 0-255 values if you take 255 * .97 (97%) = 247

The controller is working fine you have an issue doing it with LSP. Can LSP be set to use 0-255 values? I am not that versed in it yet.  But expect to learn next year all about it.

RJ


This is what it did in vixen.  thats how i found it, but i was using percents in vixen, havent been able to get it programmed using values. i will ask david at LSP if values will work. my other alternative is to get the pic re flashed again  3rd time, or reprogram all my sequences in LSP and make the MR 16 1- 16.  Thanks everyone for all your help on this. Guess i will be investing in pickit 2 soon. (shhh dont tell the wife..)
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: rrowan on September 22, 2009,
In Vixen to toggle between % or numbers there is a icon that shows either as % or #

Rick R.
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: rmonty on September 22, 2009,
The Test Hardware tool in LSP can be started by right clicking on a controller header and select the test hardware option.  When the window opens make sure you seelect the appropriate controller at the top of the window.  At the top of each slider is a number from 0 to 255 that changes with the slider movement.  You could use this tool to program the controller.
Title: Re: program start adress in LSP
Post by: joshuashu on September 22, 2009,
GOOD NEWS!!  finally got it with vixen!!!!   :)  :)   :)  i created a short full on sequence and set channel one at 97 intensity.  not sure what i did differently this time but it works now..  feeling better now..  Thanks all so much for your help!