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Software => Vixen => Topic started by: rrowan on February 05, 2011,

Title: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on February 05, 2011,
Hi Folks

Well I got the program to a usable state. There are still some things that I want to add and while doing the video I notice a sorting problem. Also with the sorting I ran into a road block with sorting a group of rows so I disabled that option for now. I figure I could spend a lot more time on the program to fix everything and nobody would be able to try the program for a while.  So I decide it was time to release it and let people try it.

I created two new videos showing the new features:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfOz_ajzapI
and a small video showing a couple of things I missed in the above video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_8FzVEHeP4

Of course the first video is still available here:
http://www.vimeo.com/19486789

So give it a try. I would not over write any current sequence. I would save all sequences from VSB with a new name since it won't have any channel data (on/off dimming) in it or audio.

Cheers

Rick R.

See Post #13 for the latest version
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: lowrider3121 on February 05, 2011,
having trouble with installing your program I'm running win2000
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on February 05, 2011,
try installing from Microsoft .net 4 framework first. Then try the setup you might have to do a reboot before running the setup program

Rick R.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on February 05, 2011,
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having trouble with installing your program I'm running win2000

You might not be able to use the program. According to MS w2k is not support in .net4
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8z6watww.aspx

Is there a reason you are using such an old OS?

Sorry

Rick R.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: tbone321 on February 05, 2011,
I use it myself on a few of my machines but in most cases it is 2000 Server.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: lowrider3121 on February 05, 2011,
pc is what I play around on plus my youngest son uses it work good for him.  got program to work on my laptop.  just trying to input my channels.
Title: Update: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on February 07, 2011,
Hi Folks

I made some improvements to the program and have uploaded a new version.
1 - Manual sort has been improved along with Channel_text (padded the numbers to help out with Microsoft's column sorting)

2 - Completed the Dongle Info screen. Allowing for single or multi dongles

3 - Some basic help popup for each data entry or buttons (f1 on item or use the ? next to the forms X box)

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on February 11, 2011,
Hi Folks,

I have a question for everyone. Currently when you create a group of SSCs it always starts off with one. So If you do a Mega Tree with 16 controllers and then add 5 more Controllers for a roof outline the roof outline Controllers will start at one also.
Example: SSC-1-Mega Tree...., SSC-1-Roof.....

So is that ok or should the program remember the last used number.
Example: Mega Tree SSC-1 to SSC-16 and Roof = SSC-17 to SSC-21

Keep it as is or change it?

Thanks

Rick R.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: taybrynn on February 11, 2011,
Keep it as is.  Starting with 1 for each display item makes sense and is more typical than not.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: kfxi on February 11, 2011,
KEEP IT LIKE IT IS,  I KEEP A LIST SO I CAN FIND WHERE THINGS START AND STOP

KEN
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: tbone321 on February 11, 2011,
If this is a concern for you, why not make it an option.  And if you make it an option, why not give the ability for the user to set the start to where they want it to be.  The default start could be the last number as you said with the ability to change it to whatever the user wants within valid limits.  
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: PJNMCT on February 11, 2011,
Rick,

I would like the option if it's not too much of a problem.

-Paul
Title: New Version (#3) Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on February 12, 2011,
Hi Folks

Thanks to some feedback and a pm. I made some upgrades to the program. There was a counting bug in the program when it calculate the number of channels needed when you click on the create button. The other is I added a check box below the SSC Mode group. Unchecked is the default way the program has worked, Check changes it so it keeps a running total of SSC. So if you like to have each group of SSC (ie: Mega tree, Arch, roof, etc) start with 1 then leave it unchecked. If you want all of your SSC number 1 to whatever then have it checked. When the program closes it saves the state you like. I added a running totals for you so you can see the number of SS channels your selection requires (String, Node, Hybrid, SSC Qty, SSC Nodes). I think I forgot to mention in the previous program update I put in a Help About page.

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on June 20, 2011,
Hi Folks

I have a update to VSB

I added two new sorts. First one does SSC order and proper RGB color order the second on does Object order and proper RGB color order. Hopefully these two sorts will help everyone out that is using this program.

I cleaned up the Sort/Save page, so it should be clearer to use.

Now when you click create (to add channel data) it updates the next available channel for the start channel. Makes it quicker to add stuff.

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: smartalec on June 21, 2011,
you have a section for dongles an what com port,
could you add a section for the E1.31 interface (for DR4 users)
thanks, great work
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on June 21, 2011,
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you have a section for dongles an what com port,
could you add a section for the E1.31 interface (for DR4 users)
thanks, great work

Can you create a blank 16 channel seq with E1.1 plugin attached and send me the file? I don't have the E1.1 and I need to see how its configured. In fact I need to add Pixelnet also  <fp.

Cheers

Rick R.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: smartalec on June 22, 2011,
its actually a vixen plugin, i hope these help you

Vixen Plugin v1.0.0.1 Zip File http://www.j1sys.com/Tutorials/Vixen/J1SysE131_VixenPlugin_v1_0_0_1.zip (http://www.j1sys.com/Tutorials/Vixen/J1SysE131_VixenPlugin_v1_0_0_1.zip)

Vixen Plugin Install Tutorial http://www.j1sys.com/Tutorials/Vixen/J1SysE131_Vixen_Install.swf (http://www.j1sys.com/Tutorials/Vixen/J1SysE131_Vixen_Install.swf)

Vixen Plugin Tutorial http://www.j1sys.com/Tutorials/Vixen/J1SysE131_Vixen_Config101.swf (http://www.j1sys.com/Tutorials/Vixen/J1SysE131_Vixen_Config101.swf)

this is the DR4 webpage http://www.j1sys.com/ecg-dr4/ (http://www.j1sys.com/ecg-dr4/)
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on June 23, 2011,
If anybody is interested

I now have VSB reading and loading profiles into the program. It gets all of the data (colors, description, etc)

Its not ready to be released and I still need to do the save part but I like it.

Cheers

Rick R.

P.S. To be honest I am hoping we don't even need this program either this year or next
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: Rainlover on June 23, 2011,
Rick,
Thanks for all of your work on this. The ability to import my profile and then add all of the SSC and nodes would be a huge time saver.
I am committed to Vixen for this year. I already have a lot of time wrapped up in sequencing my regular lights. Now I need to start sequencing my SS.
If some new software comes out, I am going to let everyone else work out the bugs.

John
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: tng5737 on June 23, 2011,
I'll second the THANKS for all the hard work!!!
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: smartalec on June 26, 2011,
Editing my main profile would be great for rgb,
 could you do like a channel output order as well, cause im having to move outputs around cause ive read the ren boards an soldered light 1 to output 4 etc, which it too hard to change now, so ive been slowly doing it in my main profile.
thanks an keep up the great work.
ps hows the e1.31 going?
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: trekster on June 26, 2011,
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If anybody is interested

I now have VSB reading and loading profiles into the program. It gets all of the data (colors, description, etc)

Its not ready to be released and I still need to do the save part but I like it.

Cheers

Rick R.

P.S. To be honest I am hoping we don't even need this program either this year or next

You were working on adding other sort options.  Sounds like you are doing much more now to it.  I like what you done so far.  I guess using my old profile would save time bu just adding the rgb into it.  I was just fine with cutting and pasting each sequence into my new profile.  But this would be a big time saver to be able to just edit.  But I am also making some changes to my show so the profile needs to be edited anyway.  I am wanting to get busy on changing my show's profile soon.  Should I wait for your new program or go with what you have on sorting now in VSB?  What do you mean by "P.S. To be honest I am hoping we don't even need this program either this year or next"?  Does this mean it may not be ready for a while?

Thank You so much for what you have done so far.

Ron
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: bking85295 on September 26, 2011,
Hello, I cannot get the 1st Vixen startup video to work.  Are there any other links that help you with the initial basic instructions to setup first profile, sequence. etc.


Of course the first video is still available here:
http://www.vimeo.com/19486789

Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: maffeirw on November 10, 2011,
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If anybody is interested

I now have VSB reading and loading profiles into the program. It gets all of the data (colors, description, etc)

Its not ready to be released and I still need to do the save part but I like it.

Cheers

Rick R.

Now that I have my Smart Strings working I was wondering if you ever modified VSB to load in and save to an existing profile.  I tried doing a search on VSB but was unable to find anything about using it on profiles other than this post.  Thanks
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: tallan on November 22, 2011,
I was wondering that as well, Please let us know when you can, I'm sure your as busy as me getting the display all set.  ;)

Thanks,
Ted
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on November 22, 2011,
Sorry at this time I don't see a version coming out that supports the profile.

Rick R.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: jnealand on November 30, 2011,
Thanks for creating and releasing this program it really helped me to build my profile by creating a sequence and then using that to create the profile.  I have two requests for a future release should there be one.

1. change the color of the blue to something lighter.  I can not read the channel label in Vixen since it comes up as black lettering on dark blue.  I fixed it by manually changing the first couple of nodes and then using an xml editor I did a replace of the dark blue with a lighter blue.

2.  Add the ability to do some configuration of 512 channels of DMX.  I spent 2 hours yesterday doing a new color sort in vixen to get the dmx channels integrated into the sort of the RGB nodes and then lost it.  And I know the ctrl click fast way of doing it, but with almost 4000 channels it is a real pain to do a custom sort. 
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on August 27, 2012,
Is anyone still using this program?

If so would you be interested in a update to it?

Rick R.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: JoeFromOzarks on August 27, 2012,
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Is anyone still using this program?

If so would you be interested in a update to it?

Rick R.

Yes, we're still using it.   (I'd hope I'm not the only one!!)

Thank you for coding this project!!

:) joe
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: mkozik1 on August 27, 2012,
Rick,

I have not tried it as I am new to Vixen but would love to.  Can you post a link to your latest and greatest version?

Thanks,
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: JoeFromOzarks on August 27, 2012,
Here ye go:

http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Software

VSB: (06/21/2011)
http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4658.0;attach=6177

:) joe
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: mkozik1 on August 27, 2012,
Thanks Joe !
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: jnealand on August 27, 2012,
I used it last year and am planning to use it again this year as soon as I get my configuration more settled down.  It was a big help in generating all the channels and labels.

I appreciate you making it available.

Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on August 27, 2012,
OK

I will button up some code and then release it Tonight, the code is at home and I am at work. I might have to do a new video to show whats new.

The biggest change is it now has three tabs (Setup -1, Create -2, Sort/Save -3) With most of the work in the Create -2 tab

You can now adjust most of the Channel text output (a blank entry or zero - if number) will result in nothing in that spot along with turning on or off the dashes in between each. Color selection for non-RGB stuff has been added.
Example: LE - 16 Channel controller but the first 4 channels you want to be Red. You will select 4 channels and red (color button )

confusing? Its pretty easy once you get the idea but I saw with a tester that it was not as straight forward as I thought. Video would make the most cents :)

Thanks for the feedback

Rick R.

P.S.  Notes:
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on August 28, 2012,
Hi Folks,

Sorry for the delay. Last night while creating a video I discovered a couple of bugs and one nasty bug. The minor ones are gone and I have a solution for the nasty one. I hope to have it button up in a day or two.

Thanks for your patience

Rick R.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: jnealand on September 22, 2012,
Any progress on the next version Rick?  Will the new version read in my old text file and let me modify it in the program?
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: jnealand on October 28, 2012,
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Any progress on the next version Rick?  Will the new version read in my old text file and let me modify it in the program?

bump
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: rrowan on October 28, 2012,
Sorry Life got in the way. I need to try to get back to programming, its only a hobby for me.

text file? do you mean profile or something else

Rick R.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: jnealand on October 28, 2012,
I meant whatever file type was previously created by VSB.  keypoint is that updates always seem to be needed and once the channel count gets large it can be a pain to recreate from scratch using VSB.  Because of smart strings I've gone from under 200 channels two years ago to over 3000 last year and over 6000 this year.
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: chrisatpsu on October 29, 2012,
just a thought, maybe a Vixen Profile Editor?
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: jnealand on November 12, 2012,
here is a little glitch I ran into today when trying to recreate my profile.  I put in 8096 for my total channels, then created my first 4096 and when I tried to start the next element at 4097 I got an error.  I then realized I needed to click the update grid button to get the second universe and the program promptly wiped out the first 4096 and I had to start over.  That is not acceptable in a program.  If you need to wipe out the already created stuff give me the option to save it and then bring it back into an updated grid.  Just my two cents.  Frustrated <md..
Title: Re: New Program VSB (Vixen Sequence Builder)
Post by: jnealand on April 17, 2013,
Rick,
Are you planning on doing any more updates to this program in time for us to use for the 2013 season?