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Title: software problem on windows xp
Post by: royce on May 24, 2012,
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  Got my le and ed built. Everything was  going so smooth. Hooked everything up like should be and there was no blinky. Ran the sequence  on another pc everything worked like it suppose to work.   PROBLEM it don't work on the lap top that I'm using for the Christmas display. The pc has windows xp on it. The  framework 2.0 and 3.5 is installed. I ran cat5  from the pc to the ed no luck. Then hooked it through the router to the ed it didn't work. I get a data signal to the ed, also no signal from the test channels. Yes i used a crossover. Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on May 24, 2012,
If you have both a wireless and an ethernet network adapter in your notebook and use the wireless connection for your internet/network connection you will have to configure your ethernet adapter with a dummy network address before the broadcast will be sent to that ethernet port.

I forgot to do it at first. See this thread. http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=8630.0
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: rrowan on May 24, 2012,
Did you load the firmware on the EtherDongle?

and the proper setup/ dll file for the EtherDongle for the software that you are using?

Rick R.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: royce on May 24, 2012,
 Got ethernet dummy address done that didn't solve the problem. The firmware on the ed  and setup/ dll file for the ed is ok.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: Rogelio on May 24, 2012,
I have been trying to help Royce get his system working.  All of his hardware works correctly.  I have tested it on my and other computers.  We even run it just from his flash drive.  His laptop has framework4.0 installed.  Do we need to find and install 3.5?  Ed is flashed with DMX.  lynx-etherdongle plugin is in output file.  Everything seems to be selected properly.  The ED light flickers when data is being sent but he gets no output to his express. The DMX signal must not be getting to the ED.  His laptop is an older one, requiring a crossover cable.  we even tried connecting thru the router.  Never any signal to express.
We gave his LAN connection a static ip address and it is now connected.  Even Disabled the wireless connection.  no luck.
Im not sure what you mean by a dummy address for network adapter.
Same problems for his desktop PC also.  Has to be something common to his network setup.  His entire house network is wireless.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: Mickpat on May 24, 2012,
I would suggest trying xLights Lightnig Test next and see if that works.  What DMX jumper setting do you have set?  What channel number do you have the Lynx Express set to?  How are you configering the E1.31 plug-in? 
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on May 25, 2012,
If you connect the ed directly to a systems ethernet port and it is set for DHCP then the ethernet will never get an IP address and therefore never send ANY data to the ethernet port without and address. A dummy address is required by the OS for it to include it in its broadcast domain.

Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: Rogelio on May 25, 2012,
we have connected it directly and thru the router.  directly required a crossover cable. neither work.  we set a static ip for the local area connection TPC/IP properties.  I set it in the same range his router provides.
is that where you are talking about needing a dummy address?
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on May 25, 2012,
When you are connecting an ethernet connection to a router with DHCP (most routers today come defaulted to using DHCP) you don't have to do the dummy address, only when you go direct between the PC and the dongle ( the dongle has no DHCP).


Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: Rogelio on May 25, 2012,
I understand. But when you say "dummy address" are you refering to a static ip address set by me?  If so, then that is not our problem.  I have done that. and we also connected to router with DHCP on automatic.  So he has 2 computers, a laptop and a deshtop, neither will get his lights to flash.  I can have his system working on my computer, unplug the ED and plug into his and it wont work.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: pk on May 25, 2012,
Could a firewall cause this problem?
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on May 25, 2012,
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I understand. But when you say "dummy address" are you refering to a static ip address set by me?  If so, then that is not our problem.  I have done that. and we also connected to router with DHCP on automatic.  So he has 2 computers, a laptop and a deshtop, neither will get his lights to flash.  I can have his system working on my computer, unplug the ED and plug into his and it wont work.

Have you tried using your router in place of his? How about using his notebook on your network with the ed?

The local broadcast may be getting blocked by the router even though this is not the usual default condition. If his notebook works with his ed on your network then the quickest way to fix things might be to review the routers config then do a hard reset to factory defaults and resetup the wireless info.

Yes, when I refer to a dummy address it is a static IP address that points to a non exsistent network.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: royce on May 25, 2012,


  I disabled the fire wall, that didn't work. I'm not using the router yet, I"m plugging in the ethernet on the lap top. All i get is a signal to the ed. The lynx express set to 001. Configuring the e1.31 plug I"m not sure what that's about. I'm the brightest one in the bunch. lol
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on May 25, 2012,
Didn't I see someone go through a similar debugging process only to find that there was a solder bridge on the surface mount chip? It might be a good thing to get a maginifying glass and look it over very carefully. A solder bridge can do strange things.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: Rogelio on May 25, 2012,
Yes Mr.C I saw that posting too.  But his dongle works on my computer and 2 other computers at work.  Someone more familiar with software is going to have to assist him.  Ive done all I know to do.  He may have to wait till the Academy to get it working.  We have not traded routers because we dont live close to each other.  We do our troubleshooting at work.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: RJ on May 25, 2012,
If it works on one computer with a cable but not the other the problem is on the computer for sure. Do you have the network card setup complete. compare settings with the computer that does work.

RJ
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on May 25, 2012,
Ok, so you have confirmed that his dongle works on your network.

Any device plugged into the router is subject to its routing function. That can include the blocking of broadcast addresses.

The way that I brought up my ed was as follows.

I connected my eD to my notebooks ethernet port. The PIC should be programmed for DMX. Without a combiner/splitter you will only have access to the first DMX univers of 512 channels.

I disabled my wireless interface.

I set my ethernet port to have an address of 192.168.1.1, mask 255.255.255.0, and default gateway 192.168.1.1.

Then I started Xlights selected Network and selected add an E1.31 interface with the first IP address as 239.255.0.1, Universe 1, and Last Channel 512.

This gets you your basic setup ready to test.

Close the Network setup.

Select 'Lighting Test' from the still open menu.

Unless you have other networks the first network 'Network 1' should be showing.

With something like a Lynx Express connected to the eD and set for DMX address 1 and some lights connected to output 1 you should be able to select channel 1 in Network 1 then using one of the 'Standard' test you should be able to get the lights to come on.

xLights has it's own built in E1.31 driver.

This process takes all user software such as LSP, Vixen etc out of the picture for testing.

If that dosen't work on the notebook then try it on the desktop.

Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: Mickpat on May 26, 2012,
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  I disabled the fire wall, that didn't work. I'm not using the router yet, I"m plugging in the ethernet on the lap top. All i get is a signal to the ed. The lynx express set to 001. Configuring the e1.31 plug I"m not sure what that's about. I'm the brightest one in the bunch. lol

What software are you using?  How do you have the software's plug-in configured?  Is the data light lit on the Lynx Express?  The Etherdongle accepts E1.31 from your PC.  To test, you need to use a program that outputs E1.31.  Mr. Christmas provided details on how to setup xLights.  Thats what I would try next.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: royce on May 26, 2012,

   Installed xlight everything worked. Software than I'm running is windows xp home version 2002 service pack 3. vixen 2.1,framework net 3.5, etherdongle output plugin is version 2. The lynx express  data light is on. <fp. 
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on May 26, 2012,
royce,

Given the info you are posting it's hard to diagnose your problem.

What setup worked?

What did you install xLights on? Laptop? Desktop? etc.

What firmware did you uninstall? Did you reprogram your PIC? Why did you reprogram your PIC if things were working.

Details Details Details.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: keitha43 on May 26, 2012,
I might be remembering wrong, but wasn't someone having a similar issue with the latest vixen ed plugin and had to resort to an older version?

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Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: MrChristmas2000 on May 26, 2012,
Thats correct the latest ed vixen dirver does not work for everybody. You have to use the first version. I had the same problem getting vixen to output a test program.

The other discussion link is:
http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=8486.0

and the driver link is:
http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Software#Vixen
Download EtherDongle - Vixen ver 2.1 EtherDongle output plugin - ver 1

Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: royce on May 26, 2012,


   YEAH  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK'S  O WHAT A RELIEF IT IS. I installed the older version of the etherdongle output ver-1. Sorry about the information . I'm thinking you know what i mean, i have that problem myself. Computer skills i don't have. All work was on the laptop, the desktop i'm not going to use. Thank's again for everyone's help. Now i can sleep. <pop..
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: Rogelio on May 27, 2012,
Glad you got it working.  I didnt even know there was a version 2 etherdongle plugin till yesterday.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: RJ on May 27, 2012,
Rick if you know where the second version is they are talking about can you pull it for me? If it is not working we should pull it to prevent other people from having it. If we posted it I am sure we had some people try it so not sure the difference.

RJ
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: keitha43 on May 27, 2012,
http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Software#Vixen  Under etherdongle.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: bisquit476 on May 27, 2012,
RJ,

I think only certain computers are having problems with the new hex file, not sure if it needs to be pulled. Maybe put a note that if the V2 file doesn't work, try the V1.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: rrowan on May 27, 2012,
RJ,

The Vixen plugin is having problems with DMX EtherDongle firmware only, it works fine with the Pixelnet Firmware.

We have talked about this before.

I will add notes to the wiki to help explain.

Rick R.
Title: Re: software problem on windows xp
Post by: RJ on May 28, 2012,
Thanks