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Offline galgon

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50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« on: January 07, 2013, »
What is the difference between the metal backed square 50/50s and the plastic rectangular 50/50s?  Is it simply the form factor an materials?  Are there certain tasks where one is better than the other?  The rectangular nodes are considerably cheaper than the square ones so I am just trying to see what the extra money buys you.
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, »
according to the wiki, the plastic rectangles consume more power per node. aside from that, they both have three rgbleds that are controlled together.

the metal squares have them in a triangle shape
the plastic rectangles are in a straight line.

the plastic rectangles are about twice as thick as the metal squares, bu they are skinnier.

both are commonly used behind something to illuminate it.

for me, i used metal squares inside an acrylic globe to light up the globe.
And i used plastic rectangles to illuminate coroplast
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, »
Functionally they are the same.  It's mainly a visual difference.  A line of plastic rectangles can do well for a roofline.
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, »
Due to the current difference, I would suspect that the rectangular nodes are also using slightly higher powered LED's which would make them slightly brighter. 
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2013, »
they use the same leds
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, »
How do you know?  Do you have the specific component list for each node?  What is causing a larger current draw?  It may be that they are using smaller current limiting resistors and if so, then again, the rectangular nodes will probably be a little brighter.
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, »
Could the wiki be off?
Ray Wu's site shows the same power consumption:Power Consumption Per Piece:  0.24Rectangle: TM1804 IC led pixel module, DC12V input;20pcs a stringSquare:      TM1804 IC led pixel module, DC12V input;20pcs a string
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, »
Grab some dumb ones at holidaycoro.com and a dmx controller (power supply if you don't have 12VDC) to fool with and see if you like them.  Although dumb they are very similar.  I was immediately hooked.  You have been warned!   ;D 
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, »
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Grab some dumb ones at holidaycoro.com and a dmx controller (power supply if you don't have 12VDC) to fool with and see if you like them.  Although dumb they are very similar.  I was immediately hooked.  You have been warned!   ;D
I did see that the dumb squares have 4 leds, and not 3 like the smart.
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, »
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Could the wiki be off?
Ray Wu's site shows the same power consumption:Power Consumption Per Piece:  0.24Rectangle: TM1804 IC led pixel module, DC12V input;20pcs a stringSquare:      TM1804 IC led pixel module, DC12V input;20pcs a string

Well, if the WIKI is off and that sometimes happens, then they probably are using the same components and that is that.
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, »
B/c i get a lot of my materials from Ray...






btw, the squares, and rectangles use the same resistors, led, diode, and cap...
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, »
And draw the same current so as said above, this part of th discussion is a wash.
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2013, »
The biggest difference I have found between the two is, one sticks to magnets and the other doesn't.
Hope this helps...
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
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The biggest difference I have found between the two is, one sticks to magnets and the other doesn't.
Hope this helps...
hot glue seems to work ok with plastic nodes.
double-backed tape does well with the metal nodes.
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Re: 50/50s - Rectangle vs. Square
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2013, »
as in my picture, nuts and bolts work well with the metal squares also...
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