Review of Technicolor Strings

[txag2008]

Here's an updated diagram that will hopefully help others on an issue that originally seemed pretty straight forward.

[tbone321]

These diagrams look good and should make it easier for people to understand power injection.  Perhaps Rick could add these somewhere in the WIKI.

[sittinguphigh]

I wonder if I by passed the SSC with the power and injected a little more volts to the string at the beginning.
Like 16 volts. Would the string handle that with out burning up? And would that keep the power going to the end?

[txag2008]

I wonder if I by passed the SSC with the power and injected a little more volts to the string at the beginning.
Like 16 volts. Would the string handle that with out burning up? And would that keep the power going to the end?

You're just looking for things to go wrong.  There are specs for a reason.

[sittinguphigh]

Were can I get them?
I know the strings are not set.
There is a variance in volts I was told by RJ.
The question would be how much? 
Maybe 10 volts to 14 volts? Or what?

[chicken]

If you guys are looking for a fuse block I just ordered some of these and they seem like a pretty nice solution for a decent price.  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login  Let me know and I can post some pictures.

[taybrynn]

With all due respect ... the bleeding edge is a painful and expensive place to be.  I think this is all very interesting and obviously do-able with workarounds and proper knowledge, but for most folks that this board was designed for ... my advise would be to stick with the wiki recommended nodes.  I do like the improved form factor and waterproofing.  BUt when we get into this discussion of power injection and voltages it sounds like the other diy christmas boards.  Remember, the KISS principle is your friend in this hobby.

[jnealand]

With all due respect ... the bleeding edge is a painful and expensive place to be.  I think this is all very interesting and obviously do-able with workarounds and proper knowledge, but for most folks that this board was designed for ... my advise would be to stick with the wiki recommended nodes.  I do like the improved form factor and waterproofing.  BUt when we get into this discussion of power injection and voltages it sounds like the other diy christmas boards.  Remember, the KISS principle is your friend in this hobby.

+++1

[johno123]

All I can say is that I appreciate having the ability to tinker and explore the cutting edge.  I think everyone on this board appreciates all the great work that folks do to keep things simple and 'canned' to ensure things work as expected.  However another really powerful part of 'do it yourself' is understanding how it works and knowing how we can expand support for other areas, knowing that it is not supported.  I'm not sure if it would make sense, but it may be good to have a separate area of the forum where we can explore these topics without scaring the KISS folks...

Again, my main interest with these new nodes had to do with better form factors and better waterproofing..


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[rrowan]

  I'm not sure if it would make sense, but it may be good to have a separate area of the forum where we can explore these topics without scaring the KISS folks...

Again, my main interest with these new nodes had to do with better form factors and better waterproofing..


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Sorry that is not going to happen, all general areas are open to all of the members. At one time RJ and most of the other long time members/staff were on diyc (Christmas in Shirley). They had a "privilege" area and it didn't go over well. DLA was design for beginners and will stay that way. Sure we need to improve areas but mostly we try to be like taybrynn said with the KISS principle. At times I think even this thread has gone beyond what it should be.

Rick R.

[keitha43]

My concern assuming Ray's specs are correct, and assuming I understand this correctly, the nodes in the WIKI can't be 128 nodes long now without injection themselves. Given that the 128 node limit was with nodes using 29ma each back then and use 56-60ma now. Am I incorrect in thinking this?

[Steve Gase]

My concern assuming Ray's specs are correct, and assuming I understand this correctly, the nodes in the WIKI can't be 128 nodes long now without injection themselves. Given that the 128 node limit was with nodes using 29ma each back then and use 56-60ma now. Am I incorrect in thinking this?

that is also my conclusion.

[t.jo13]

I have been following this topic for a while, and still confussnd still trying to understand where it is going . If.  U are worried about injection then maybe its the wrong string for you !!!! Other sites use multiple types of strings an cause serious problems with you. Some Of the people commenting already know this I have had a sample since theywere released iI found the water proofing very good. I don't know about the rest of you but i have little time to worry about power injection than to design,build,program And display it for any holiday we choose. . Some people commenting should not  make decorating any harder for new be as they are at times confuse

And yes I have a sample string

Joe

[Steve Gase]

Here is where I think it stands... 
 
(1) if you buy the Technicolor strings, be aware of their different behavior and plan accordingly.
(2) if you buy the original IP68 strings referenced by the DLA wiki, you may have unexpected problems if the power consumption no longer lets the 128 nodes work without injection.  The change in parts may cause you problems if you expect to use more than 85 pixels.  If you mix old IP68 and new IP68 in the same object (ie. a tree) you'll also likely see the differences visually as brighter next to slightly dimmer.
 
Note: I use "IP68" to refer to the RJ-approved TM1804IC strings from Ray Wu.  These strings were improved with better epoxy and water-proofing to improve on the original IP66 rating.   

[keitha43]

I agree it is much simpler to just use another SSC every 85 nodes whether the ones in the WIKI or these new design Technicolor nodes. Although the creator is working on an easy injection solution it might be worth looking at when he releases it. And of course RJ still has something up his sleeve that I am dying to find out what it is.