Author Topic: About Ray using a higher current in LED.  (Read 6507 times)

Offline sittinguphigh

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 679
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2013, »
Just received a email from Ray. He is sorry for the problems. He is now changing the specs on all LED effected on his site. I asked Ray to send me any information toward the LED update.
What you don't know. Can hurt you.

Offline einstein2883

  • Beta Tester
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 136
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2013, »
My order is on its way from Ray.  My plan was to mix last years nodes with this order on my taller tree. Now that I see I'm most likely going to get the new LED in this batch has any one put these new LED next to the old ones? Are they going look different and stand out.

Thanks

Offline sittinguphigh

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 679
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2013, »
I sent Ray a email asking that question. I think they are brighter.
What you don't know. Can hurt you.

Offline smeighan

  • Patron Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2285
    • Nutcracker RGB Sequence Builder
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2013, »
if usng xlights you can set a blanket brightness values of 60-70% thus reducing the current being drawn. the old lights were already too bright so i dial down the brightness. I watch the current draw and as expected the current drops as a dim the lights.

effects like butterfly set each nodes brightness to 255. if the brightness is set to 50% each nodes brightness will be set to 128.

this would allow you to get around blown fuses for this season
Sean
Littleton, CO
Latest releases You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
xLights/Nutcracker Forum You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Fbook You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Offline Steve Gase

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2915
    • WinterLightShow in Georgetown, TX
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2013, »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
if usng xlights you can set a blanket brightness values of 60-70% thus reducing the current being drawn. the old lights were already too bright so i dial down the brightness. I watch the current draw and as expected the current drops as a dim the lights.

effects like butterfly set each nodes brightness to 255. if the brightness is set to 50% each nodes brightness will be set to 128.

this would allow you to get around blown fuses for this season


That's great, sean!  where is that set?


Also, do you think you might ever implement a brightness level at a string level?
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login  |  110K channels, 50K lights  |  Nutcracker, Falcon, DLA, HolidayCoro

Offline smeighan

  • Patron Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2285
    • Nutcracker RGB Sequence Builder
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2013, »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
if usng xlights you can set a blanket brightness values of 60-70% thus reducing the current being drawn. the old lights were already too bright so i dial down the brightness. I watch the current draw and as expected the current drops as a dim the lights.

effects like butterfly set each nodes brightness to 255. if the brightness is set to 50% each nodes brightness will be set to 128.

this would allow you to get around blown fuses for this season


That's great, sean!  where is that set?


Also, do you think you might ever implement a brightness level at a string level?


Brightness for current effect is bottom left quadrant
Sean
Littleton, CO
Latest releases You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
xLights/Nutcracker Forum You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Fbook You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Offline sittinguphigh

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 679
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2013, »
I agree. If fact I post that very thing. But got no answer.
Thanks for bringing that up. Can the brightness be brought down for every show. Like a switch? Well then by theory you could bring them down enough to go over the 128 nodes. That will help me.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2013, by sittinguphigh »
What you don't know. Can hurt you.

Offline Timon

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 66
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2013, »
You really have to look at what you need when it comes to brightness. The TM1804s only run the LEDs at about 8ma per color where the WS2811s run at 18.5ma per color however the WS2811 are brightner. If you don't need the brightness and the current smart strings work for you then use them.

Problem is that some are saying the Technicolor use mor epower because of the regulator but that's totally misleading, they use more power because they are brighter since the WS2811 runs the LED closer to the manufactures specification.

Offline sittinguphigh

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 679
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2013, »
Steve Gase

Can you double check what smeighan is saying?
I don't see the switch in xlights.
My system is still not working.
What you don't know. Can hurt you.

Offline keitha43

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1182
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2013, »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I agree. If fact I post that very thing. But got no answer.
Thanks for bring that up. Can the brightness be brought down for every show. Like a switch? Well then by theory you could bring them down enough to go over the 128 nodes. That will help me.
You still can't go over the 128 node limit because 128 nodes is the max the smart string utility can configure.

Offline sittinguphigh

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 679
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2013, »
Yet ;D
I know you guys to well <res.
How far can we go. 
What you don't know. Can hurt you.

Offline Steve Gase

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2915
    • WinterLightShow in Georgetown, TX
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2013, »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Steve Gase

Can you double check what smeighan is saying?
I don't see the switch in xlights.
My system is still not working.

I do see, and now have used, the slider for the brightness and contrast.  It is within the Nutcracker tab's Effect section:

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login  |  110K channels, 50K lights  |  Nutcracker, Falcon, DLA, HolidayCoro

Offline sittinguphigh

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 679
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2013, »
Have you tried using a 100 technicolor light strings with taking down the current to see if you can use 100 nodes or more?
Now can you only use the function with Nutcracker only?
What you don't know. Can hurt you.

Offline arw01

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 866
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2013, »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Have you tried using a 100 technicolor light strings with taking down the current to see if you can use 100 nodes or more?
Now can you only use the function with Nutcracker only?

LSP also has some intensity settings, not sure if it's quite as easy as nut cracker, but I have seen right click on a channel and lower the intensity.

Offline chrisatpsu

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3729
  • ahhh, yes... my new blink-i-nator 3000!!!
Re: About Ray using a higher current in LED.
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2013, »
if you inject power from another source, you might run into issues like were discussed when people wanted to use multiple rail power supplies...

why not...
run another cat 5 cable from another port on the same hub out to the other end of the string, then use those 3 pin connectors to attach the power to the opposite end of you lights (with data NOT connected)

so you would have a 3 pin male connector on both sides of the string (the far end wont have data connected)
one cat5 cable running to your ssc with data
one cat5 cable running to the far end with + and -  with no data connected


or...
use a 2 pin connector on the far end to avoid confusion
« Last Edit: December 01, 2013, by chrisatpsu »
To rule the entire tri-state area!  What's that? Perry the Platypus!!!