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Building Target????
« on: September 04, 2012, »
I've watched all the tutorials and have been playing with targets for a few months now. Finally got all my SSC's, Flex strips hub and all the hardware in and built. When I import the effects into LSP 2.5 I have succesfully saved to "patterns" and have succesfully pasted multiple effects. What I'm finding is when the sequence plays through the spirals it starts out ok, runs about 1 second the starts the loop over. The 10 second spiral looks like 20 half second patches starting over and over. I have built my tree in mulitple ways. But here is what I'm working with.
12 Flex Strips with 60 nodes each, 12 SSC's
I have built mega tree targets with 12 strips and with 24 strips
I have built rays with 12 strips
As you can see I'm totally lost in trying to smooth out my spirals. (I'm getting all my effects from the user data base)
What am I missing here?

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Re: Building Target????
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2012, »
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I've watched all the tutorials and have been playing with targets for a few months now. Finally got all my SSC's, Flex strips hub and all the hardware in and built. When I import the effects into LSP 2.5 I have succesfully saved to "patterns" and have succesfully pasted multiple effects. What I'm finding is when the sequence plays through the spirals it starts out ok, runs about 1 second the starts the loop over. The 10 second spiral looks like 20 half second patches starting over and over. I have built my tree in mulitple ways. But here is what I'm working with.
12 Flex Strips with 60 nodes each, 12 SSC's
I have built mega tree targets with 12 strips and with 24 strips
I have built rays with 12 strips
As you can see I'm totally lost in trying to smooth out my spirals. (I'm getting all my effects from the user data base)
What am I missing here?

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Hi Joe;

please always include the target+effect you are working with. You can get this by right clicking on the animated gif and pasting that url. With this i can go and duplicate what you are doing.
Like these:
 workspaces/231/TREE+20120902123914.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+BARBLUE.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+BSPARK.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+COLORB.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+GSPARK.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+MINE.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+NEWEST.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+NEWEST_SEAN.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+NONE3.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+NONE4.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+NONE5.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+POLE.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+RSPARK.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+SEAN.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+SNOWFILL.nc
 workspaces/231/TREE+TESTBAR.nc

So a couple of things:

You built the TREE target as 12x60 but you then pick 180 degree window in your effects, This means you will only output 6 strings of data. If you are making half megatrees you need to always tell me what it takes to build a full tree in the target generator.

Are u building full or half megatree?

i will go and check the frames calculation in the export lsp routines


so for your TREE target, it should be entered as 24x60.
Now when your effects pick 180 degrees, you will get strings 1-12.



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Re: Building Target????
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, »
Thanks Sean,
Will start from scratch. You are correct in the fact that the end product is going to be a 12 strand half tree. I'll go in again and try to document the effects.
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Re: Building Target????
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2012, »
OK Sean
Just went in and chose TREE as my target and sean as my effect from my library. when it creates the gif you can see the jerking as it finishes its cycle and starts over every second or less. Thats the way it also pastes into my sequence, not matter the duration of effect.
Thanks for the Help
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Re: Building Target????
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2012, »
OK Sean,
I hope I got this right
Target is TREE and effect is SEAN, the second effect is BARBLUE
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Re: Building Target????
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2012, »
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OK Sean,
I hope I got this right
Target is TREE and effect is SEAN, the second effect is BARBLUE
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thanks for the if links, it does look like their is a hiccup someplace. ill investigate
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Re: Building Target????
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2012, »
Thanks for the help!!
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Building Target????
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2012, »
Sean, if you can let us know the outcome, it does this on at least one of mine too, if not more.  If its determined what the cause is, let me know and I can go into mine as well and give you the links to my patterns that do that also. 

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Re: Building Target????
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2012, »
Ok, i found the problem. This was a bug.

You had a speed of .5 in your effect, The original code would create as many frames as strands. you have 24 strands in your current model. But if speed is .5, it only gets through half the strands.

It is fixed, but understand this impact.

speed of 1.0 with 24 strands = 24 frames (This makes sure we do one rotation)
speed 0.5 with 24 strands = 48 frames (This makdes sure we do one rotation)
speed 0.1 with 24 strands = 240 frames.

In other words as you slow the effect down it will take longer to create the one rotation of the effect. you prob wont notice with a speed of 0.5

Here is your same effect after the fix

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2012, »
Ok so in effect if we see it doing that we should change the .5 to a .1 instead and see if it corrects the glitch? 


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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, »
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Ok so in effect if we see it doing that we should change the .5 to a .1 instead and see if it corrects the glitch? 


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no, this fix works for all speeds. you should not see any glitch, no matter what the speed.

Set the speed to what you want for the effect, just know if you pick slow speeds it is going to take longer to generate the effect
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Re: Building Target????
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2012, »
Ah ok, gotcha!  Thanks Sean!
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Re: Building Target????
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2012, »
Excellent, Thanks a Sean
It's one of the very few times it wasn't user error on my part.
Thank You
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