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Offline KeithTarpley

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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2012, »
Greetings,,,

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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2012, »
Ok From a non tech person.

Will the conductor run DMX and pixelnet out of it at the same time?
Of coarse when all the firmware is available.

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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2012, »
Greetings,,,

An active hub can run DMX out at the same time as pixelnet, just as before.

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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2012, »
Sorry none tech person here.

So out of the a conductor into a active hub
that can spit the signal into DMX and pixelnet.

From a conductor with out a active hub I will not be able to run both DMX and pixelnet signals?

Do I have that right?
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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2012, »
Greetings,,,

The Conductor does not change the ability of the hubs, just where the sequence and music source is coming from.  Active hubs have extra DMX capability that can be used in parallel with Pixelnet.

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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2012, »
Sorry just not getting this.

If my show is in the conductor were every thing starts
can I run both DMX and pixelnet from the conductor
or do I need a active hub to get both DMX and pixelnet
signals.

In other words can the conductor hold both DMX and pixelnet programing?

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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2012, »
As I understand it, you need an active hub to get both as the pic on the active hub is what pulls the assigned channels out of the data stream that the Etd (with pixelnet firmware) is outputting.

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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2012, »
the conductor doesn't change the outputs of the EtherDongle, it mearly replaces the computer, and sits on the etherdongle.

the etherdongle sends out pixelnet (with the pix firmware), or dmx, (with the dmx firmware),

if you're running pixelnet, then you need a active hub to get dmx (just like always)


the conductor just holds your show on a memory card, and sends the signals to the etherdongle. the etherdongle does all the communications to the rest of your show, just like always.
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Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2012, »
The conductor only supports pixelnet right now so if you need dmx you need to get it out of an active hub
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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2012, »
I'm still not getting the question answered?

Let me put it another way.

The conductor replacing the computer.
Can the conductor hold both DMX and pixelnet firmware at the same time?
This would mean when the information comes out
of the conductor it has to be changed to ether DMX and pixelnet.
The question is how do you change the signal of the conductor to DMX and pixelnet signals at the same time. Using both at the same time.

Do you have to run two dongles ONE for each firmware DMX and pixelnet?

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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #55 on: September 18, 2012, »
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I'm still not getting the question answered?

Let me put it another way.

The conductor replacing the computer.
Can the conductor hold both DMX and pixelnet firmware at the same time?
This would mean when the information comes out
of the conductor it has to be changed to ether DMX and pixelnet.
The question is how do you change the signal of the conductor to DMX and pixelnet signals at the same time. Using both at the same time.

Do you have to run two dongles ONE for each firmware DMX and pixelnet?

Thanks

Nope,

The Conductor stores your show (sequences, music) along with a clock for timing and scheduler. The output is still handled by the Etherdongle which outputs pixelnet (currently only pixelnet with DMX option later).

To put it another way. The EtherDongle is your horse and the Conductor is the saddle. The saddle does not change the way the horse moves. So the Conductor does not change the way the EtherDongle outputs. So to get DMX you will need the active hub

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Conductor/Etherdongle --- Cat5 ---- Active Hub -----(outputs to SSC or DMX devices like LE)

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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #56 on: September 18, 2012, »
Rick you used the word or.

So the conductor will not run a show with DMX and pixelnet at the same time?

So you will need two conductors to run the same show with DMX and pixelnet?

Is this right?

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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #57 on: September 18, 2012, »
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RJ you used the word or.

So the conductor will not run a show with DMX and pixelnet at the same time?

So you will need two conductors to run the same show with DMX and pixelnet?

Is this right?

Thanks

Mort

The conductor has (will have) 2 firmware versions.  DMX or Pixelnet.

The DMX firmware will produce 4 DMX universes or 2048 total DMX channels. 

The Pixelnet firmware will produce 4 Pixelnet universes of 16384 total pixelnet channels.

If you are using pixelnet, AND you use smart string 16-port active hub, you have the ability to convert 512 of the channels on each hub to DMX.  This ability to convert to DMX is a function of smart string ACTIvE hubs -- not of the dongle, nor the conductor. 
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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2012, »
Thanks  Rick

Sorry about being a pain. Now every thing makes sense.

Ok sounds good. Very workable.

Thanks for all the great work guy.

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Re: Conductor Beta Finishes
« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2012, »
Heh, now I think I am confused.  <fp.  Can you verify if I have this right:

The EtherDongle has two different firmware that can be loaded.  One is for Pixelnet and the other is for DMX.

If you connect an EtherDongle programmed for Pixelnet to a 16 port active hub, the active hub can output the first 512 channels as DMX.

If you connect an EtherDongle programmed for DMX to a Combiner (used in reverse), the Combiner can output 4 DMX universes.

The Conductor takes the place of your computer running the sequencing program.  Instead of your computer sending the control signals to the EtherDongle, the Conductor does that.

The Conductor has (will have) two different firmware that can be loaded.  One for Pixelnet and one for DMX.

If your EtherDongle is loaded with the Pixelnet firmware, the Conductor needs to be loaded with the Pixelnet firmware.

If your EtherDongle is loaded with the DMX firmware, the Conductor needs to be loaded with the DMX firmware.

Is that the gist?